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* Obscurity Award - Obscure anime defined as having a user count from 10 to 500 and an ended date at least a one year prior to the present.  Maximum achievement awarded for watching half of all obscure anime.  Steps by standard percentages.  The numbers are somewhat arbitrary and up for discussion.  Anime with very few users are often almost impossible to find and counting them would be pointless.  The moving wall of one year is to exclude shows that are simply new, not obscure.  [[User:Reuther|Reuther]]
* Obscurity Award - Obscure anime defined as having a user count from 10 to 500 and an ended date at least a one year prior to the present.  Maximum achievement awarded for watching half of all obscure anime.  Steps by standard percentages.  The numbers are somewhat arbitrary and up for discussion.  Anime with very few users are often almost impossible to find and counting them would be pointless.  The moving wall of one year is to exclude shows that are simply new, not obscure.  [[User:Reuther|Reuther]]
** I like it. Available English language subs for the entire anime are a must, and solve the issue of "very" few users (also fixing the reason for 50% instead of 100% imo). As you said, the numbers are arbitrary and up for discussion, but I like one year from the end date. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
** I like it. Available English language subs for the entire anime are a must, and solve the issue of "very" few users (also fixing the reason for 50% instead of 100% imo). As you said, the numbers are arbitrary and up for discussion, but I like one year from the end date. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
* Around the achievements you have a coloured circle which looks fine in the beginning but after I reached lvl9 it became a ugly green circle or any other fill colour. I was thinking about 2 different things for completing achievements. 1) For obtainable achievements like watching all episodes from anime x you can have a "puzzle" system, so to see the full achievement you need to watch everything. (or cheat) 2) For almost impossible achievements (like watch all anime...) the circle would be fine, but when reaching maximum level using something else than a green circle, little stars or something like that. I just find the full circle ugle. --Ikus 13:08, 28 November 2013 (CET)
** Okay, first things first: there isn't a set of impossible achievements and a set of possible ones; that's not how it works. Anime and creator achievements have 9 levels, mylist and statistical ones have 8, and one-time, special and mod ones have only one -- or no levels, alternatively. I don't know the internals, maybe it's possible to do more, but this is what we operate with currently. The last level of 9-level ones and the single-level ones have a "one-color circle", which is neither precisely one-color nor precisely a circle, but let's go with that for simplicity; the rest has a color progression. I don't particularly find the one-color circle ugly, personally, but we can think of alternatives. Now, something like little stars or whatever for is fine, I guess, but it has to be at the very least easily replicable for all achievements of the same kind (i.e. all creator achievements have the same set of little stars or whatever), because nobody is going to bother picking stuff to do what the circle does today for each and every current or new achievement. In contrast to the limited but existing feasibility of that, however, a puzzle system is much less likely to happen, not only because of the low replicability across different achievements but also because I'm pretty certain the system would require extensive rewrites, and that isn't going to happen any soon. We have more pressing limitations that aren't being addressed at current, either (search this page for Shinbou for more information). --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* Adding a little icon/mark on achievements that are scanned by a client. Some might just manually add stuff to get achievements. This way it can be more legit and show the person watched it.--Ikus 13:08, 28 November 2013 (CET)
** I doubt it's even implementable, and even if it is, many people simply use [[IRC:Chii|Chii]], and others added files back in the stone age of AniDB and don't have them anymore, and so on. I see way too many drawbacks. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




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* Bleach and Naruto badges? I'm not a fan of either series, but they are big. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]]
* Bleach and Naruto badges? I'm not a fan of either series, but they are big. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]]
** I think they were denied on account of being shitty. Don't quote me on it, though. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:09, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
** I think they were denied on account of being shitty. Don't quote me on it, though. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:09, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
*** Denied (again) by [[User:Worf|Worf]] on 24 February 2013. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 08:17, 1 February 2014 (CET)




* Watching a film in a theater. While I know people could cheat on this, of course they can cheat on everything else. I think it would be pretty cool, especially with the current Ghibli showings. [[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:51, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
* Watching a film in a theater. While I know people could cheat on this, of course they can cheat on everything else. I think it would be pretty cool, especially with the current Ghibli showings. [[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:51, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
** No. Please. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
** No. Please. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
*** Denied by [[User:Worf|Worf]] on 24 February 2013. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 08:17, 1 February 2014 (CET)




* Having a certain percentage of your anime on DVD. This might actually help the industry... [[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:51, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
* Having a certain percentage of your anime on DVD. This might actually help the industry... [[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:51, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
** No. Please. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
** No. Please. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
*** Denied by [[User:Worf|Worf]] on 24 February 2013. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 08:17, 1 February 2014 (CET)




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*** Primarily just for reminding/encouraging users to watch what they had initially started, e.g. if user has reached over 50 stalled anime on their mylist. Badge would disappear if the value decreases below the threshold. Alternatively thought about an achievement depending on the watched-% (watched episodes / mylist episodes), but this could be rather easy to get for anyone who's only adding already seen anime to their lists. --[[User:Xenodor|Xenodor]]
*** Primarily just for reminding/encouraging users to watch what they had initially started, e.g. if user has reached over 50 stalled anime on their mylist. Badge would disappear if the value decreases below the threshold. Alternatively thought about an achievement depending on the watched-% (watched episodes / mylist episodes), but this could be rather easy to get for anyone who's only adding already seen anime to their lists. --[[User:Xenodor|Xenodor]]
**** While I somewhat see where this is coming from, I have strong doubts about the actual usefulness or value of such a non-achievement. If anything, it looks to me more like a "coward medal", so to speak, and I fail to see why we would want that. The badges are supposed to be something you'd show off to your not-so-hardcore fellows (lol, am I really saying this?), not a system of reminders telling you that you missed an episode of so-and-so franchise or that you're late in x or y series. They're supposed to be a general description of, well, achievements (oh, Captain Obvious, you don't say?! I'd never have guessed! :P); for reports on their status in series and franchises and such, AniDB has tons of much more useful features. Just my personal opinion, though. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]]
**** While I somewhat see where this is coming from, I have strong doubts about the actual usefulness or value of such a non-achievement. If anything, it looks to me more like a "coward medal", so to speak, and I fail to see why we would want that. The badges are supposed to be something you'd show off to your not-so-hardcore fellows (lol, am I really saying this?), not a system of reminders telling you that you missed an episode of so-and-so franchise or that you're late in x or y series. They're supposed to be a general description of, well, achievements (oh, Captain Obvious, you don't say?! I'd never have guessed! :P); for reports on their status in series and franchises and such, AniDB has tons of much more useful features. Just my personal opinion, though. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]]
***** Denied by [[User:Worf|Worf]] on 24 February 2013. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 08:17, 1 February 2014 (CET)
* Around the achievements you have a coloured circle which looks fine in the beginning but after I reached lvl9 it became a ugly green circle or any other fill colour. I was thinking about 2 different things for completing achievements. 1) For obtainable achievements like watching all episodes from anime x you can have a "puzzle" system, so to see the full achievement you need to watch everything. (or cheat) 2) For almost impossible achievements (like watch all anime...) the circle would be fine, but when reaching maximum level using something else than a green circle, little stars or something like that. I just find the full circle ugle. --Ikus 13:08, 28 November 2013 (CET)
** Okay, first things first: there isn't a set of impossible achievements and a set of possible ones; that's not how it works. Anime and creator achievements have 9 levels, mylist and statistical ones have 8, and one-time, special and mod ones have only one -- or no levels, alternatively. I don't know the internals, maybe it's possible to do more, but this is what we operate with currently. The last level of 9-level ones and the single-level ones have a "one-color circle", which is neither precisely one-color nor precisely a circle, but let's go with that for simplicity; the rest has a color progression. I don't particularly find the one-color circle ugly, personally, but we can think of alternatives. Now, something like little stars or whatever for is fine, I guess, but it has to be at the very least easily replicable for all achievements of the same kind (i.e. all creator achievements have the same set of little stars or whatever), because nobody is going to bother picking stuff to do what the circle does today for each and every current or new achievement. In contrast to the limited but existing feasibility of that, however, a puzzle system is much less likely to happen, not only because of the low replicability across different achievements but also because I'm pretty certain the system would require extensive rewrites, and that isn't going to happen any soon. We have more pressing limitations that aren't being addressed at current, either (search this page for Shinbou for more information). --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
*** Denied [[User:Ommina|the person in charge of the backend]], way too much work and not enough result. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 08:17, 1 February 2014 (CET)
* Adding a little icon/mark on achievements that are scanned by a client. Some might just manually add stuff to get achievements. This way it can be more legit and show the person watched it.--Ikus 13:08, 28 November 2013 (CET)
** I doubt it's even implementable, and even if it is, many people simply use [[IRC:Chii|Chii]], and others added files back in the stone age of AniDB and don't have them anymore, and so on. I see way too many drawbacks. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
*** Not to mention people might watch on TV, etc. Anyway, [[User:Ommina|the person in charge of the backend]] says it's impossible to do as that's not kept track of and it's not gonna start now. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 08:17, 1 February 2014 (CET)
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