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--[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]]
--[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]]
== Update on 2014-01-27 ==
Guys, an update on the most recent posts on this page: I'm seeing a lot somewhat careless posts that are unwillingly making it hard to keep track of things on the page, so I came up with a few new guidelines to help keep things in line. '''Don't add several suggestions on a single line.''' When you do, I have to edit your posts to separate everything, because it's impossible to discuss anything unless the subject is clear. Also, '''be careful to not duplicate suggestions'''; try actually searching the page with ctrl+f before posting. I sometimes move duplicates around, or copyedit them to integrate them with the original one. If your duplicate adds nothing whatsoever I'll plain replace it with an "agreed" on the original one. If I seem to have removed your suggestion, that's the most likely reason, so search for keywords. Also check to see if it's not somehow implemented on the [Achievements|live achievements page]; [[User:Worf|Worf]] normally removes suggestions when adding them there as implemented, but I may also remove suggestions on cleanup. Additionally, clear duplicates of suggestions that are specifically on the denied area will be removed on sight. I don't touch that area, by the way; I watch it and I can guarantee only the mods move stuff there. Also, '''please sign with timestamps''', by typing <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> at every suggestion you make.
--[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




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**** I've added the missing Mainichi Awards a few days ago --[[User:Worf|Worf]]
**** I've added the missing Mainichi Awards a few days ago --[[User:Worf|Worf]]
***** This would make more sense if more awards were added. Spirited Away has won tons of awards, including the Oscar for Best Animated Feature. Among the other Western prizes, only Howl won the New York Film Critics Circle Award. But for other Japanese/Asian awards that could be considered, we have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime_Grand_Prix], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animation_Kobe], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seiun_Award], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Anime_Award]. And finally, Tales from Earthsea won the Bunshun Kiichigo Award, which is like the Japanese Razzies. --[[User:Iroha|Iroha]] 17:45, 3 March 2013 (CET)
***** This would make more sense if more awards were added. Spirited Away has won tons of awards, including the Oscar for Best Animated Feature. Among the other Western prizes, only Howl won the New York Film Critics Circle Award. But for other Japanese/Asian awards that could be considered, we have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime_Grand_Prix], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animation_Kobe], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seiun_Award], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Anime_Award]. And finally, Tales from Earthsea won the Bunshun Kiichigo Award, which is like the Japanese Razzies. --[[User:Iroha|Iroha]] 17:45, 3 March 2013 (CET)
****** "the Bunshun Kiichigo Award, which is like the Japanese Razzies" -- I think we can do without achievements for shit movies, unless we choose to go wild and make a whole set of joke achievements. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




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** I could do category-based badges, but, like Shitenshi, have some concerns over privacy. (Anal badge at level 8, horray!) --[[User:Ommina|ommina]]
** I could do category-based badges, but, like Shitenshi, have some concerns over privacy. (Anal badge at level 8, horray!) --[[User:Ommina|ommina]]
** I believe it doesn't need to be that divided, audience categories should be simple. --[[User:microdark|microdark]]   
** I believe it doesn't need to be that divided, audience categories should be simple. --[[User:microdark|microdark]]   
* I have been thinking about achievements for fetishes. Cat girls, sexy foxes, angels, boing boing (2 achievements next to eachother...) there's plenty to love.--Ikus 13:15, 28 November 2013 (CET)
** Dupe, or kind of dupe, of the category-based badges. Moving. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




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* Around the achievements you have a coloured circle which looks fine in the beginning but after I reached lvl9 it became a ugly green circle or any other fill colour. I was thinking about 2 different things for completing achievements. 1) For obtainable achievements like watching all episodes from anime x you can have a "puzzle" system, so to see the full achievement you need to watch everything. (or cheat) 2) For almost impossible achievements (like watch all anime...) the circle would be fine, but when reaching maximum level using something else than a green circle, little stars or something like that. I just find the full circle ugle. --Ikus 13:08, 28 November 2013 (CET)
* Around the achievements you have a coloured circle which looks fine in the beginning but after I reached lvl9 it became a ugly green circle or any other fill colour. I was thinking about 2 different things for completing achievements. 1) For obtainable achievements like watching all episodes from anime x you can have a "puzzle" system, so to see the full achievement you need to watch everything. (or cheat) 2) For almost impossible achievements (like watch all anime...) the circle would be fine, but when reaching maximum level using something else than a green circle, little stars or something like that. I just find the full circle ugle. --Ikus 13:08, 28 November 2013 (CET)
** Okay, first things first: there isn't a set of impossible achievements and a set of possible ones; that's not how it works. Anime and creator achievements have 9 levels, mylist and statistical ones have 8, and one-time, special and mod ones have only one -- or no levels, alternatively. I don't know the internals, maybe it's possible to do more, but this is what we operate with currently. The last level of 9-level ones and the single-level ones have a "one-color circle", which is neither precisely one-color nor precisely a circle, but let's go with that for simplicity; the rest has a color progression. I don't particularly find the one-color circle ugly, personally, but we can think of alternatives. Now, something like little stars or whatever for is fine, I guess, but it has to be at the very least easily replicable for all achievements of the same kind (i.e. all creator achievements have the same set of little stars or whatever), because nobody is going to bother picking stuff to do what the circle does today for each and every current or new achievement. In contrast to the limited but existing feasibility of that, however, a puzzle system is much less likely to happen, not only because of the low replicability across different achievements but also because I'm pretty certain the system would require extensive rewrites, and that isn't going to happen any soon. We have more pressing limitations that aren't being addressed at current, either (search this page for Shinbou for more information). --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




* Adding a little icon/mark on achievements that are scanned by a client. Some might just manually add stuff to get achievements. This way it can be more legit and show the person watched it.--Ikus 13:08, 28 November 2013 (CET)
* Adding a little icon/mark on achievements that are scanned by a client. Some might just manually add stuff to get achievements. This way it can be more legit and show the person watched it.--Ikus 13:08, 28 November 2013 (CET)
** I doubt it's even implementable, and even if it is, many people simply use [[IRC:Chii|Chii]], and others added files back in the stone age of AniDB and don't have them anymore, and so on. I see way too many drawbacks. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




* Give a achievement for peoples age. Next one for me could be midlife-crisis achievement. And I'll probably stick around until the grandpa achievement.--Ikus 13:08, 28 November 2013 (CET)
* Give a achievement for peoples age. Next one for me could be midlife-crisis achievement. And I'll probably stick around until the grandpa achievement.--Ikus 13:08, 28 November 2013 (CET)
** Yeah, like we need another death-is-getting-close reminder and an achievement for inserting your birthday in the profile... See also privacy concerns (some people don't add their birth date for privacy reasons). --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)


= New Anime/Creator Achievements suggestions =
= New Anime/Creator Achievements suggestions =
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* I think there should be a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=54 Kon Satoshi] Creator Badge! He's got the highly reputable body of work for it. --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
* I think there should be a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=54 Kon Satoshi] Creator Badge! He's got the highly reputable body of work for it. --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
** I recommend [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=871 Shirow Masamune] as well. --[[User:Fendweller|Fendweller]]
** I second this. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
** I second both, and add [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=50 Mamoru Hosoda] to the list, though he's only an up and coming director. Also perhaps a separate badge for everything [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=40 Hayao Miyazaki] has ever worked on, including his early stuff? Perhaps also Production I.G. and Madhouse, in addition to the existing Studio 4C. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
** The problem with him is that his filmography is pretty unimpressive in numerical terms, making this mostly a Paranoia Agent badge. --[[User:Iroha|Iroha]] 15:31, 1 March 2013 (CET)
** The problem with him is that his filmography is pretty unimpressive in numerical terms, making this mostly a Paranoia Agent badge. --[[User:Iroha|Iroha]] 15:31, 1 March 2013 (CET)
*** I understand and agree with the concern, but I should think he's high profile enough to warrant it anyway. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




* Would a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=lexicon&lexiconid=76 noitaminA] Badge be out of place? How about the [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=5787 Natsume Yuujinchou] series? --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
* I recommend [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=871 Shirow Masamune] as well. --[[User:Fendweller|Fendweller]]
** I second this. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
*** Same. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
 
 
* On top of the two above, I add [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=50 Mamoru Hosoda] to the list, though he's only an up and coming director. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
** Seconded. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
 
 
* Also perhaps a separate badge for everything [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=40 Hayao Miyazaki] has ever worked on, including his early stuff? --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
** The overlap with Ghibli is too big. This might be one to keep in mind for after a system rewrite allows more advanced stuff, but right now there is too little a point, I think. Watching his movies is essentially two achievements for the price of one. :) Though, of course, with how prolific he is, that isn't necessarily a big problem. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
 
 
* Perhaps also Production I.G. and Madhouse, in addition to the existing Studio 4C. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
** While Ghibli, KyoAni and 4C all can be said to have a very clear style, I doubt the same can be said of studios such as I.G and Madhouse. With their size, I'm not sure it's such a good idea. If we add them just because, we're going to need to add all major studios, and frankly the mylist badges already kinda covers that stuff. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* I think that a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=721 Production I.G.] achievement should exist. Many good series from them --[[User:Siborg|Siborg]] ([[User talk:Siborg|talk]]) 04:45, 8 November 2013 (CET)
** Dupe, moving. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
 
 
* Would a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=lexicon&lexiconid=76 noitaminA] Badge be out of place? --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
** I'm in support of a Noitamina badge. [[User:Soulweaver|Soulweaver]] 14:48, 23 April 2012 (CEST)
** I'm in support of a Noitamina badge. [[User:Soulweaver|Soulweaver]] 14:48, 23 April 2012 (CEST)
** Not particularly interested in noitaminA, but I'd like a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=lexicon&vtype=tag&relid=6905 Young Animator Training Project] badge. Because it's really cool stuff. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 03:48, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
** I don't know what to file this under, tbh. I'm leaving it under anime/creator for now. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:16, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
** I don't know what to file this under, tbh. I'm leaving it under anime/creator for now. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:16, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
*** There is currently no way to award watching anime that have a certain tag. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET)
*** There is currently no way to award watching anime that have a certain tag. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET)
* Not particularly interested in noitaminA, but I'd like a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=lexicon&vtype=tag&relid=6905 Young Animator Training Project] badge. Because it's really cool stuff. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 03:48, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
** Context: my suggestion was originally said in response to the noitaminA suggestion above. [[User:Worf|Worf]]'s response below is a copy of the one he gave there, just for good measure. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** There is currently no way to award watching anime that have a certain tag. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET).




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** I agree! Not to mention (most of them) are really good! --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
** I agree! Not to mention (most of them) are really good! --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
*** There is currently no way to award watching anime that have a certain tag. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET)
*** There is currently no way to award watching anime that have a certain tag. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET)
* Just to revisit the "achievements can't be assigned to tags" issue (see above) since it's been almost a year since it was last mentioned: I'm pretty sure nothing has changed on that front, especially with the new tag system rather around the corner, but can we have that as a high priority feature, achievements-wise? It doesn't need to be implemented ASAP or anything, but it's really high on my wishlist for the achievements system, so next time someone is going to implement a random feature can we have this at least considered? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* How about the [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=5787 Natsume Yuujinchou] series? --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
** I just separated this from the noitaminA badge suggestion above. Kind of borderline. Might be worth looking into, especially if it grows. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=Natsume+Yujincho&do.search=search Natsume Yujinchou] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** Dupe. Moving. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




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***** Yeah, uhh, do you want it done manually or automatically? If you say it needs to be done manually and then complain it won't work automatically, you're not making much sense. If the problem is I'm using names rather than IDs, however, that was simply how I had made the list back when I needed it; converting it to IDs is a bit on the annoying monkey work side, but it needs to be done just once and it's not a lot of entries anyway. I still would rather simply use some manner of query to make it all automatic (are you ''sure'' we can't get that to be automatic?), but hey, can't have a party every day. (If all else fails, just make a badge for either, or maybe one for each.) --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 09:02, 1 March 2013 (CET)
***** Yeah, uhh, do you want it done manually or automatically? If you say it needs to be done manually and then complain it won't work automatically, you're not making much sense. If the problem is I'm using names rather than IDs, however, that was simply how I had made the list back when I needed it; converting it to IDs is a bit on the annoying monkey work side, but it needs to be done just once and it's not a lot of entries anyway. I still would rather simply use some manner of query to make it all automatic (are you ''sure'' we can't get that to be automatic?), but hey, can't have a party every day. (If all else fails, just make a badge for either, or maybe one for each.) --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 09:02, 1 March 2013 (CET)
****** The problem is that the script responsible for the badges can't handle such complex cases. It can handle either "a list of AID", "all related anime to a given AID" or "all anime with a certain creditID for a given creatorID". So someone would have to provide a list of AIDs that would need to be hardcoded into the config. This method would mean that manual updating of the config is required - every time a new anime (or credit) gets added that would fall into this group. This is simply not practical (you remember the people complaining that some creator badges had a wrong count because some new anime wasn't included? That's why.) Of course this could be made automatic, like it was done for Creators. But you should be well aware of the problems that come with trying to kick other people into doing some work. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET)
****** The problem is that the script responsible for the badges can't handle such complex cases. It can handle either "a list of AID", "all related anime to a given AID" or "all anime with a certain creditID for a given creatorID". So someone would have to provide a list of AIDs that would need to be hardcoded into the config. This method would mean that manual updating of the config is required - every time a new anime (or credit) gets added that would fall into this group. This is simply not practical (you remember the people complaining that some creator badges had a wrong count because some new anime wasn't included? That's why.) Of course this could be made automatic, like it was done for Creators. But you should be well aware of the problems that come with trying to kick other people into doing some work. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET)
******* Yeah, there's a problem with that kicking people into work thing. I'm afraid I can't really help there. Can we have that sort of feature into a wishlist, if nothing else? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* For a moment I thought that we had a creator achievement for [http://anidb.net/cr817 Fujishima Kousuke] already, but turns out that we don't. --[[User:Iroha|Iroha]] 15:31, 1 March 2013 (CET)
** Agreed, important badge. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* A [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?type.web=1&type.unknown=1&type.tvspecial=1&type.tvseries=1&type.ova=1&type.other=1&type.musicvideo=1&type.movie=1&show=animelist&orderby.name=0.1&noalias=1&do.update=update&adb.search=you%60re%20under%20arrest You're Under Arrest] Achievement, if it's possible. --[[User:Ryuurei|Ryuurei]]
** I second that... --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
*** Would be encompassed by a Fujishima Kousuke achievement. Of course, splitting it into YUA! and Oh! My Goddess achievements would also be possible. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] 20:28, 11 May 2013 (CEST)
**** It would be for the best to splitting them into You're Under Arrest! and Oh! My Goddess Achievements. [[User:Ryuurei|Ryuurei]] 04:49, 29 May 2013
***** I rather think not. They're small to warrant separate achievements. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** Moving... another dupe... sigh. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* Although I detest his work, [http://anidb.net/cr860 Akamatsu Ken] might also be prolific enough to warrant a badge. --[[User:Iroha|Iroha]] 15:31, 1 March 2013 (CET)
** He is. I can vouch that Love Hina and Negima are much better manga than their abominable anime adaptations would have you think, but still. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* Also not mentioned yet: [http://anidb.net/cr5970 NisiOisiN] --[[User:Iroha|Iroha]] 15:47, 1 March 2013 (CET)
** Can't go without this one. He's a huge name in anime nowadays. Too bad we'd have Medaka Box in that achievement, too... --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* [http://anidb.net/cr874 Togashi Yoshihiro] (or badge for Yu Yu Hakusho) --[[User:Iroha|Iroha]] 15:47, 1 March 2013 (CET)
** There's already one for HxH, so I see why you'd suggest Yuu Yuu Hakusho, but I can't agree with leaving Level E out, not with how excellent it is. No, it has to go on him as a creator. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* [http://anidb.net/cr149 Ootomo Katsuhiro] --[[User:Iroha|Iroha]] 15:47, 1 March 2013 (CET)
** Most of his credits aren't badge material, so in the end we'd have a pretty unimpressive badge in numerical terms. This we can deal with, see Satoshi Kon badge discussion. Another, maybe bigger problem is that many of his badge credits have episode restrictions (i.e. directed one ep out of several), and I'm inclined to think the system can't deal with that too well. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* Some more suggestions: [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=cobra&do.search=search Space Adventure Cobra] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** Borderline, might qualify (see previous stuff about Natsume). --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=patlabor&do.search=search Patlabor] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** A classic. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=dirty+pair&do.search=search Dirty Pair] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** Borderline as well, I should think. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=alchemist&do.search=search Full Metal Alchemist] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** Probably relevant enough to qualify. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




* For a moment I thought that we had a creator achievement for [http://anidb.net/cr817 Fujishima Kousuke] already, but turns out that we don't. And although I detest his work, [http://anidb.net/cr860 Akamatsu Ken] might also be prolific enough to warrant a badge. --[[User:Iroha|Iroha]] 15:31, 1 March 2013 (CET)
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=2659 Aria] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** Also not mentioned yet: [http://anidb.net/cr5970 NisiOisiN], [http://anidb.net/cr874 Togashi Yoshihiro] (or badge for Yu Yu Hakusho), [http://anidb.net/cr149 Ootomo Katsuhiro] --[[User:Iroha|Iroha]] 15:47, 1 March 2013 (CET)
** Probably borderline, might qualify due to the amount of praise it gets. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




* Some more suggestions: [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=cobra&do.search=search Space Adventure Cobra], [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=patlabor&do.search=search Patlabor], [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=dirty+pair&do.search=search Dirty Pair], [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=alchemist&do.search=search Full Metal Alchemist], [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=2659 Aria], [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=nodame+Cantabile&do.search=search Nodame Cantabile], [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=hajime+no+ippo&do.search=search Hajime no Ippo], [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=Natsume+Yujincho&do.search=search Natsume Yujinchou], [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=Rurouni+Kenshin&do.search=search Rurouni Kenshin], [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=Guyver&do.search=search Guyver], the works by [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=866 Masakazu Katsura] and maybe some way to connect all [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=452 these] through Scramble Wars. --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=nodame+Cantabile&do.search=search Nodame Cantabile] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** Borderline, probably not sufficiently relevant. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




* I would like to see a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=49 Masaaki Yuasa] (as 監督 director) creator achievement. And a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=718 Gainax] studio (as 製作 animation production) one. [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=145 Osamu Dezaki] (all Major Staff page) Achievement will be great too! --[[User:Ryuurei|Ryuurei]]
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=hajime+no+ippo&do.search=search Hajime no Ippo] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
* A [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?type.web=1&type.unknown=1&type.tvspecial=1&type.tvseries=1&type.ova=1&type.other=1&type.musicvideo=1&type.movie=1&show=animelist&orderby.name=0.1&noalias=1&do.update=update&adb.search=you%60re%20under%20arrest You're Under Arrest] Achievement, if it's possible. --[[User:Ryuurei|Ryuurei]]
** Agreed, important enough. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** I second that... --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
 
*** Would be encompassed by a Fujishima Kousuke achievement. Of course, splitting it into YUA! and Oh! My Goddess achievements would also be possible. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] 20:28, 11 May 2013 (CEST)
 
**** It would be for the best to splitting them into You're Under Arrest! and Oh! My Goddess Achievements. [[User:Ryuurei|Ryuurei]] 04:49, 29 May 2013
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=Rurouni+Kenshin&do.search=search Rurouni Kenshin] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** Must have. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
 
 
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=Guyver&do.search=search Guyver] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** Too small to count. We have to draw the line somewhere. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
 
 
* the works by [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=866 Masakazu Katsura] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** Not relevant enough, I think. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
 
 
* and maybe some way to connect all [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=452 these] through Scramble Wars. --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** Seriously? Those are all character relations, which are extremely weak. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
 
 
* I would like to see a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=49 Masaaki Yuasa] (as 監督 director) creator achievement. --[[User:Ryuurei|Ryuurei]]
** Pretty sure I'd seen this suggestion before. Anyway, yes, Yuasa Masaaki is important.
 


* And a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=718 Gainax] studio (as 製作 animation production) one. --[[User:Ryuurei|Ryuurei]]
** This is a case similar to the SHAFT one. There were a select few brains making Gainax good. Today they're with Khara or Trigger and Gainax is a ghost of itself. I'd sooner prefer an achievement on the creators that made Gainax good, or a Gainax-with-person-so-and-so achievement when (if) it becomes possible. Be it SHAFT alone or Gainax alone, I see no reason. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




* I'd like to see an achievement for the Toaru/Raildex series! -- [[User:CDB-Man|CDB-Man]] ([[User talk:CDB-Man|talk]]) 09:04, 8 October 2013 (CEST)
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=145 Osamu Dezaki] (all Major Staff page) Achievement will be great too! --[[User:Ryuurei|Ryuurei]]
** I agree. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




* I think that a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=721 Production I.G.] achievement should exist. Many good series from them --[[User:Siborg|Siborg]] ([[User talk:Siborg|talk]]) 04:45, 8 November 2013 (CET)
* I'd like to see an achievement for the Toaru/Raildex series! -- [[User:CDB-Man|CDB-Man]] ([[User talk:CDB-Man|talk]]) 09:04, 8 October 2013 (CEST)
** Borderline in terms of [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=5975 size], but it's highly popular, so it qualifies. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=6662 Fairy tail]. It has plenty of episodes and should continue. It's a fun show plenty of action and magic. It doesn't have real fillers or just short side stories between arc, it progress good. I love the comedy and subtle ecchi fanservice. When the show continues it would be worth to add for me. I see a Fairy Tail log on a burning/flaming background.--Ikus 12:57, 28 November 2013 (CET)
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=6662 Fairy tail]. It has plenty of episodes and should continue. It's a fun show plenty of action and magic. It doesn't have real fillers or just short side stories between arc, it progress good. I love the comedy and subtle ecchi fanservice. When the show continues it would be worth to add for me. I see a Fairy Tail log on a burning/flaming background.--Ikus 12:57, 28 November 2013 (CET)
** Big enough to warrant one, I'd say. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




* Ikki tousen achievement. It's a classic series with a good fan base and probably has the most figures ever produced. Ikki tousen is still the best show in what it does. For the ecchi fan, this one is really important, I think.--Ikus 12:57, 28 November 2013 (CET)
* Ikki tousen achievement. It's a classic series with a good fan base and probably has the most figures ever produced. Ikki tousen is still the best show in what it does. For the ecchi fan, this one is really important, I think.--Ikus 12:57, 28 November 2013 (CET)
** Probably borderline, see cases above. When the tag-based achievement becomes real, having a Romance of the Three Kingdoms tag achievement makes a tad more sense, if you ask me. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




* About Naruto, I can understand why, but at the same time I think anyone who has been watching Naruto since 2002 (like me) deserves a statue, or at least an achievement. Even if you don't want to give one, make it part of a bigger achievement. I was thinking about a "fill me up," "I survived boredom," I'm talking about negative achievements. In this case certain anime with terrible fillers ( like DBZ snake way) those stack up for an achievement. Giving an achievement for watching fillers, give something for suffering.--Ikus 13:15, 28 November 2013 (CET)
* About Naruto, I can understand why, but at the same time I think anyone who has been watching Naruto since 2002 (like me) deserves a statue, or at least an achievement. Even if you don't want to give one, make it part of a bigger achievement. I was thinking about a "fill me up," "I survived boredom," I'm talking about negative achievements. In this case certain anime with terrible fillers ( like DBZ snake way) those stack up for an achievement. Giving an achievement for watching fillers, give something for suffering.--Ikus 13:15, 28 November 2013 (CET)
** If you've been watching Naruto since 2002 and think you deserve a status for that, I think you deserve to be shot, but maybe that's just me. Anyway, I'm not sure there's a great point in that kind of "achievement", but I guess to each their own. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* [http://anidb.net/cr445 Shinkai Makoto]. Not sure how nobody suggested him before. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* [http://anidb.net/cr131 Oshii Mamoru]. Not sure how nobody suggested him before. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)


* Since everyone is suggesting lots of semi-irrelevant cases, I'd like to nominate another borderline one: [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=7568 Kaminomi]. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* Just for good measure, since it's covered by the Dezaki Osamu suggestion above, but [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=1457 Ashita no Joe]. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=1072 Ace o Nerae]. It falls short of being fully covered by the Dezaki Osamu suggestion due to [http://anidb.net/a1073 Shin Ace o Nerae!] --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)


* I have been thinking about achievements for fetishes. Cat girls, sexy foxes, angels, boing boing (2 achievements next to eachother...) there's plenty to love.--Ikus 13:15, 28 November 2013 (CET)


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* I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on nwa's considerations on this matter (see above). He has some decent points. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]]
* I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on nwa's considerations on this matter (see above). He has some decent points. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]]
** I agree with nwa's points, choosing a certain set of anime's for a genre badge will always leave out some people, and thus the complaining begins. BartS has a good point, it would be better to consider all anime entries with a max weight in a certain category. Making it a badge/achievement based on total percentage watched will be impossible in this case, but you could set a certain amount of anime watched of the genre a prerequisite for being able to get the badge. --[[User:Fendweller|Fendweller]]
** I agree with nwa's points, choosing a certain set of anime's for a genre badge will always leave out some people, and thus the complaining begins. BartS has a good point, it would be better to consider all anime entries with a max weight in a certain category. Making it a badge/achievement based on total percentage watched will be impossible in this case, but you could set a certain amount of anime watched of the genre a prerequisite for being able to get the badge. --[[User:Fendweller|Fendweller]]
* I think those Genre Pack are wrong, not about the genre, but because it's incomplete and completely subjective. Moreover, there is some mistake and spoil. For exemple, Speed Racer is not an 80's show at all, it's a 60's one (1967-1968 precisely). Akira was adapted in 1988, not in the 90's, as Dragon Ball, from 1986 to 1989 and Z from 1989 to the 90's. Galaxy 999 in Afterlife... ok people will thank you about that. Also, about the "They Were Big in Japan", Cat's Eyes was a BIG success in France, so "didn't make that big a impression elsewhere at the time" is inapropriate. --[[User:Ryuurei|Ryuurei]]
** Wrong place, moved. Anyway... Well obviously they're going to be incomplete and subjective, they're meant to be a select pick of suggestions of good shows people might otherwise skip. As for mistakes, well, I don't really think the Genre Packs idea is actually going to fly, but you should probably make notes about each show under it when you think they shouldn't be there. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




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I think those Genre Pack are wrong, not about the genre, but because it's incomplete and completely subjective. Moreover, there is some mistake and spoil. For exemple, Speed Racer is not an 80's show at all, it's a 60's one (1967-1968 precisely). Akira was adapted in 1988, not in the 90's, as Dragon Ball, from 1986 to 1989 and Z from 1989 to the 90's. Galaxy 999 in Afterlife... ok people will thank you about that. Also, about the "They Were Big in Japan", Cat's Eyes was a BIG success in France, so "didn't make that big a impression elsewhere at the time" is inapropriate. --[[User:Ryuurei|Ryuurei]]


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