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==Song info sources==
==Song info sources==
The following are acceptable sources for information on anime songs:
Information on anime songs should come from either official sources and/or sources established as acceptable by AniDB.


The following are acceptable sources for information on anime songs as defined by AniDB:
* '''Official sources''' are sources that are (in)directly related to the song in question. These can include the band, music label, or anime's official website, but also the website of any online store where one can expect they legitimately sell the song or album.
* '''VIDEO -''' OPs, EDs and insert songs are generally all given in the video.
* '''VIDEO -''' OPs, EDs and insert songs are generally all given in the video.
* '''http://anison.info/data/about.html -''' it's better to use this URL. "Search by" terms explained: 作品 = basically the anime title; 曲 = song name; 人物 = person as in singer, arranger etc.; 音源 = catalogue number.
* '''http://anison.info/data/about.html -''' it's better to use this URL. "Search by" terms explained: 作品 = basically the anime title; 曲 = song name; 人物 = person as in singer, arranger etc.; 音源 = catalogue number.
* '''[http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/メインページ Japanese wiki] -''' you'd obviously need to search for the anime title, then look for 主題歌 (the most common title to put songs under), there should generally be all OP, ED and insert songs given and in which eps they're played (if more than 1 OP or ED).
* '''[http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/メインページ Japanese wiki] -''' you'd obviously need to search for the anime title, then look for 主題歌 (the most common title to put songs under), there should generally be all OP, ED and insert songs given and in which eps they're played (if more than 1 OP or ED).


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# Image song: The song was credited as an image song, or was bundled with a character album of image songs for that character. Absent any specific credits for one of the above song types, a song can be marked image song for AniDB purposes.
# Image song: The song was credited as an image song, or was bundled with a character album of image songs for that character. Absent any specific credits for one of the above song types, a song can be marked image song for AniDB purposes.


=====Song-anime relation timestamp data=====
====Song-anime relations for uncredited songs====
When songs are used in anime, they are not always fully credited in the anime credits.  To aid with the documentation and crediting of song data, one data point that '''could''' be added to AniDB is timestamp data.  Currently, [https://tracker.anidb.net/view.php?id=3539 AniDB does not have the ability] to add comments to song-anime-relations to document this timestamp data.  Therefore, the interim solution is to add this information to the song entry`s description.
Normally when songs are used in anime, they are added to AniDB without issue since they are credited in the credits section of the episode, and/or other reliable 3rd party sources such as Anison or the anime's official website.
 
Sometimes, songs are not always fully credited in the anime credits.  To aid with the documentation and crediting of '''uncredited''' song data, we document extra data in AniDB to support the song credit entry.


The standard template for adding such data is as follows:
Currently, [https://tracker.anidb.net/view.php?id=3539 AniDB does not have the ability] to add comments to song-anime-relations to document credit information. If/when this feature is implemented:
  SONG DESCRIPTION TEMPLATE
# For credited songs, no notation regarding credit status is required in the song-anime-relation comment field.
  Anime name #1 (anime ID): Ep 1-2 (3:27); Ep O3 (5:33, <<any special notes>>) ''-- note O3 is the letter O, as in O type episodes''
# For uncredited songs, document "Uncredited" credit status in the song-anime-relation comment field.
Anime name #2 (anime ID): Ep 5, 7-10 (12:31, <<any special notes>>); Ep 11 (16:30), Ep S1 (5:33; 11:52 <<any special notes>>)
## However, given this feature currently does not exist, the interim solution is to add this information via a comment CREQ to the song-anime-relation.
  Anime name #3 (anime ID): Ep 1, 11-13, 16 (5:33 [IN], <<any special notes>>; 11:52 [OP])
## To support the documentation of uncredited songs, timestamp data could also be documented into CREQ messages. Timestamp data is considered [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research original research], and not a source.
## Comment CREQs used to document this information should be '''filed then immediately revoked''', so that they do not enter the CREQ queue.
 
The standard template for adding such data into CREQ messages is as follows. For any corner cases, reasonable discretion should be used.
  CREQ NOTE TEMPLATE
  Ep 1: (~3:27, <<any special notes>>, Verified with file [File ID]); (~14:45,  <<any special notes>>, Verified with files [File ID]|[File ID])
Ep 2: (~3:27, <<any special notes>>, Verified with file [File ID])
  Ep O3: (~5:33, <<any special notes>>, Verified with file [File ID]) -- note O3 is the letter O, as in O type episodes
Usage notes:
Usage notes:
# The Anime ID must also be a live URL link to the anime entry.
# Providing the File ID is optional but highly encouraged, so that the timestamp can be proved if necessary.
# The standard anime entry link is '''<nowiki>https://anidb.net/a99999</nowiki>''' where '''99999''' is the anime ID of the entry in question.
## The File ID must also be a live URL link to the file in question that was used to verify the timestamp.
# The standard anime entry link is '''<nowiki>https://anidb.net/f99999</nowiki>''' where '''99999''' is the file ID of the file in question.
# Optional: you can also add live URL links to each episode, using '''<nowiki>https://anidb.net/e999999</nowiki>''' as the standard entry link.
# Optional: you can also add live URL links to each episode, using '''<nowiki>https://anidb.net/e999999</nowiki>''' as the standard entry link.
# Special notes are used to describe any nuances for a particular timestamp, such as a timestamp coming from a specific release other than the original broadcast.
# Special notes are used to describe any nuances for a particular timestamp, such as a timestamp coming from a specific release other than the original broadcast.
# In instances where the same song is used in the same episode of the anime as 2 or more different song types, include the song types in [ ] square bracket tags. Please use the standard Anison 2-letter tags as [[Anison|found here]].
# In instances where the song type (e.g. OP, ED, IN, etc) is needed to disambiguate, include the song types in [ ] square bracket tags. Please use the standard Anison 2-letter tags as [[Anison|found here]].
## BGM can be used for background music, as Anison does not currently have an acronym for it.
## BGM can be used for background music, as Anison does not currently have an acronym for it.


Here is a fictitious example of a song that is used in the Psycho-Pass series multiple times.  This full description would be added to the end / bottom of the song entry`s description.
Here is a fictitious example of a song that is used in the Psycho-Pass series multiple times.
  EXAMPLE
  EXAMPLE
  Psycho-Pass (<nowiki>[url=https://anidb.net/a9127]</nowiki>{{a|a9127|a9127}}[/url]): Ep 1-2 (3:27); Ep O3 (12:30, New Edit) ''-- note O3 is the letter O, as in O type episodes''
  Ep 1: (~3:27, TV Broadcast, Verified with file [url=https://anidb.net/file/1143174]ID1143174[/url]); (~14:45, BD/DVD, Verified with files [url=https://anidb.net/file/1179631]f1179631[/url]|[url=https://anidb.net/file/1418180]f1418180[/url]) -- note multiple files used for verification of both BD and DVD
Psycho-Pass 2 (<nowiki>[url=https://anidb.net/a10065]</nowiki>{{a|a10065|a10065}}[/url]): Ep 5, 7-10 (12:31, BD/DVD); Ep 11 (16:30), Ep S1 (5:33; 11:52, 2019 rebroadcast)
Ep 2: (~3:27, Verified with file [url=https://anidb.net/file/1145419]f1145419[/url])
Psycho-Pass 3 (<nowiki>[url=https://anidb.net/a14735]</nowiki>{{a|a14735|a14735}}[/url]): Ep 1, 11-13, 16 (5:33 [IN], BD/DVD; 11:52 [OP])
Ep O3: (~5:33, New Edit, Verified with file [url=https://anidb.net/file/1447708]f1447708[/url]) -- note O3 is the letter O, as in O type episodes
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=====Generating Comment CREQs to document song-anime relation data=====
[[File:Cmt_creq_songanimerel.png|600px|thumb|text-bottom|right|'''Step 1:''' click on the "Add/Edit Related Anime" button on the song's page.<br>
'''Step 2:''' the 1st button is the CREQ History button.]]
Currently, [https://tracker.anidb.net/view.php?id=3543 AniDB does not directly expose the Comment CREQ button] for song-anime-relations. The 2nd screenshot shows where the button would be, after the feature request is fulfilled. Otherwise, in lieu of a button, users can generate a Comment CREQ directly using the following link template:
TEMPLATE
<nowiki>https://anidb.net/admin/creq/?creq.cmt=1&id=<<Entry ID>>&tb=<<database table name>></nowiki>
EXAMPLE
https://anidb.net/admin/creq/?creq.cmt=1&id=44785&tb=songanimereltb
The table name is always ''songanimereltb'' for song-anime-relations. The ID can be obtained by visiting a particular relation's creq history page (see screenshot), and getting it from the URL of the creq history page.
For example, in this CREQ history page URL, '''44785''' is the song-anime-relation ID, and '''songanimereltb''' is the table.
<nowiki>https://anidb.net/admin/creq/?do.showhistov=1&id=44785&table=songanimereltb</nowiki>


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