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==Song info sources==
==Song info sources==
Any official or established source can be used for information on anime songs. In some cases you might be asked to provide more than one source if a mod is unfamiliar on the subject.
Information on anime songs should come from either official sources and/or sources established as acceptable by AniDB.
* Official sources are sources that are (in)directly related to the song in question. These can include the band, music label or anime's official website, but also the website of any online store where one can expect they legitimately sell the song or album.
* Established sources are websites that through time and experience have established themselves on the subject and are therefore considered trustworthy sources.  
The following are examples of acceptable sources for information on anime songs:


The following are acceptable sources for information on anime songs as defined by AniDB:
* '''Official sources''' are sources that are (in)directly related to the song in question. These can include the band, music label, or anime's official website, but also the website of any online store where one can expect they legitimately sell the song or album.
* '''VIDEO -''' OPs, EDs and insert songs are generally all given in the video.
* '''VIDEO -''' OPs, EDs and insert songs are generally all given in the video.
* '''http://anison.info/data/about.html -''' it's better to use this URL. "Search by" terms explained: 作品 = basically the anime title; 曲 = song name; 人物 = person as in singer, arranger etc.; 音源 = catalogue number.
* '''http://anison.info/data/about.html -''' it's better to use this URL. "Search by" terms explained: 作品 = basically the anime title; 曲 = song name; 人物 = person as in singer, arranger etc.; 音源 = catalogue number.
* '''[http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/メインページ Japanese wiki] -''' you'd obviously need to search for the anime title, then look for 主題歌 (the most common title to put songs under), there should generally be all OP, ED and insert songs given and in which eps they're played (if more than 1 OP or ED).
* '''[http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/メインページ Japanese wiki] -''' you'd obviously need to search for the anime title, then look for 主題歌 (the most common title to put songs under), there should generally be all OP, ED and insert songs given and in which eps they're played (if more than 1 OP or ED).


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====General Principles====
====General Principles====
Most of the time, songs are credited with a credit type matching actual usage, or the song is not credited at all. It's only insert song credits that seem to somewhat often have a credit type mismatching the actual usage.  The fact that credit type = usage for the other song types the vast majority of the time... is what allowed the "enter the credits" rule to effectively yield the same result as the other way around of "enter the usage"
Most of the time, songs are credited with a credit type matching actual usage, or the song is not credited at all. It's only insert song credits that seem to somewhat often have a credit type mismatching the actual usage.  The fact that credit type = usage for the other song types the vast majority of the time... is what allowed the "enter the credits" rule to effectively yield the same result as the other way around of "enter the usage".


Therefore, ultimately the more fundamental solution is to enter the usage, and call out the fact that songs are "incorrectly" tagged as a given type when they are actually being used as not that type.  This view of "tag the usage" creates less exceptions than "tag the credits", and provides a much simpler policy to follow. This policy was discussed [https://anidb.net/forum/thread/109453 here].
Therefore, ultimately the more fundamental solution is to enter the usage, and call out the fact that songs are "incorrectly" tagged as a given type when they are actually being used as not that type.  This view of "tag the usage" creates less exceptions than "tag the credits", and provides a much simpler policy to follow. This policy was discussed [https://anidb.net/forum/thread/109453 here].
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====Types of song-anime relations====
====Types of song-anime relations====
# Opening: The song was used during the opening sequence. For clarity, any song that plays (partially or fully) during the opening credits is deemed to be played during the "opening" sequence; as such, its song-episode relation for that episode is set as opening theme, regardless of how the song is credited in the episode credits.
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# Ending: The song was used during the ending sequence. For clarity, any song that plays (partially or fully) during the ending credits is deemed to be played during the "ending" sequence; as such, its song-episode relation for that episode is set as ending theme, regardless of how the song is credited in the episode credits.
# For Opening and Ending relations, see the [[Content:C Episode Guidance|C Episode Guidance]] page for further details and many exception cases. The below definitions are general principles for standard episodes (regular opening sequence in the first 5 minutes of the episode + regular ending sequence in the last 5 minutes of the episode) and do not cover all corner cases.
## Opening: The song was used during the opening sequence. For clarity, any song that plays (partially or fully) during the opening credits is deemed to be played during the "opening" sequence; as such, its song-episode relation for that episode is set as opening theme, regardless of how the song is credited in the episode credits.
## Ending: The song was used during the ending sequence. For clarity, any song that plays (partially or fully) during the ending credits is deemed to be played during the "ending" sequence; as such, its song-episode relation for that episode is set as ending theme, regardless of how the song is credited in the episode credits.
# Background music: The song was used as background music and is credited as such.
# Background music: The song was used as background music and is credited as such.
# Insert song: The song was used as an insert song and is credited as such.
# Insert song: The song was used as an insert song and is credited as such.
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