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==Song info sources== | ==Song info sources== | ||
Information on anime songs should come from either official sources and/or sources established as acceptable by AniDB. | |||
The following are acceptable sources for information on anime songs as defined by AniDB: | |||
* '''Official sources''' are sources that are (in)directly related to the song in question. These can include the band, music label, or anime's official website, but also the website of any online store where one can expect they legitimately sell the song or album. | |||
* '''VIDEO -''' OPs, EDs and insert songs are generally all given in the video. | * '''VIDEO -''' OPs, EDs and insert songs are generally all given in the video. | ||
* '''http://anison.info/data/about.html -''' it's better to use this URL. "Search by" terms explained: 作品 = basically the anime title; 曲 = song name; 人物 = person as in singer, arranger etc.; 音源 = catalogue number. | * '''http://anison.info/data/about.html -''' it's better to use this URL. "Search by" terms explained: 作品 = basically the anime title; 曲 = song name; 人物 = person as in singer, arranger etc.; 音源 = catalogue number. | ||
* '''[http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/メインページ Japanese wiki] -''' you'd obviously need to search for the anime title, then look for 主題歌 (the most common title to put songs under), there should generally be all OP, ED and insert songs given and in which eps they're played (if more than 1 OP or ED). | * '''[http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/メインページ Japanese wiki] -''' you'd obviously need to search for the anime title, then look for 主題歌 (the most common title to put songs under), there should generally be all OP, ED and insert songs given and in which eps they're played (if more than 1 OP or ED). | ||
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====General Principles==== | ====General Principles==== | ||
Most of the time, songs are credited with a credit type matching actual usage, or the song is not credited at all. It's only insert song credits that seem to somewhat often have a credit type mismatching the actual usage. The fact that credit type = usage for the other song types the vast majority of the time... is what allowed the "enter the credits" rule to effectively yield the same result as the other way around of "enter the usage" | Most of the time, songs are credited with a credit type matching actual usage, or the song is not credited at all. It's only insert song credits that seem to somewhat often have a credit type mismatching the actual usage. The fact that credit type = usage for the other song types the vast majority of the time... is what allowed the "enter the credits" rule to effectively yield the same result as the other way around of "enter the usage". | ||
Therefore, ultimately the more fundamental solution is to enter the usage, and call out the fact that songs are "incorrectly" tagged as a given type when they are actually being used as not that type. This view of "tag the usage" creates less exceptions than "tag the credits", and provides a much simpler policy to follow. This policy was discussed [https://anidb.net/forum/thread/109453 here]. | Therefore, ultimately the more fundamental solution is to enter the usage, and call out the fact that songs are "incorrectly" tagged as a given type when they are actually being used as not that type. This view of "tag the usage" creates less exceptions than "tag the credits", and provides a much simpler policy to follow. This policy was discussed [https://anidb.net/forum/thread/109453 here]. | ||
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====Types of song-anime relations==== | ====Types of song-anime relations==== | ||
# Opening: The song was used during the opening sequence. For clarity, any song that plays (partially or fully) during the opening credits is deemed to be played during the "opening" sequence; as such, its song-episode relation for that episode is set as opening theme, regardless of how the song is credited in the episode credits. | {{main|Content:C Episode Guidance}} | ||
# Ending: The song was used during the ending sequence. For clarity, any song that plays (partially or fully) during the ending credits is deemed to be played during the "ending" sequence; as such, its song-episode relation for that episode is set as ending theme, regardless of how the song is credited in the episode credits. | # For Opening and Ending relations, see the [[Content:C Episode Guidance|C Episode Guidance]] page for further details and many exception cases. The below definitions are general principles for standard episodes (regular opening sequence in the first 5 minutes of the episode + regular ending sequence in the last 5 minutes of the episode) and do not cover all corner cases. | ||
## Opening: The song was used during the opening sequence. For clarity, any song that plays (partially or fully) during the opening credits is deemed to be played during the "opening" sequence; as such, its song-episode relation for that episode is set as opening theme, regardless of how the song is credited in the episode credits. | |||
## Ending: The song was used during the ending sequence. For clarity, any song that plays (partially or fully) during the ending credits is deemed to be played during the "ending" sequence; as such, its song-episode relation for that episode is set as ending theme, regardless of how the song is credited in the episode credits. | |||
# Background music: The song was used as background music and is credited as such. | # Background music: The song was used as background music and is credited as such. | ||
# Insert song: The song was used as an insert song and is credited as such. | # Insert song: The song was used as an insert song and is credited as such. | ||
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# Image song: The song was credited as an image song, or was bundled with a character album of image songs for that character. Absent any specific credits for one of the above song types, a song can be marked image song for AniDB purposes. | # Image song: The song was credited as an image song, or was bundled with a character album of image songs for that character. Absent any specific credits for one of the above song types, a song can be marked image song for AniDB purposes. | ||
====Song-anime | ====Song-anime relations for uncredited songs==== | ||
Normally when songs are used in anime, they are added to AniDB without issue since they are credited in the credits section of the episode, and/or other reliable 3rd party sources such as Anison or the anime's official website. | |||
Sometimes, songs are not always fully credited in the anime credits. To aid with the documentation and crediting of '''uncredited''' song data, we document extra data in AniDB to support the song credit entry. | |||
Currently, [https://tracker.anidb.net/view.php?id=3539 AniDB does not have the ability] to add comments to song-anime-relations to document credit information. If/when this feature is implemented: | |||
# For credited songs, no notation regarding credit status is required in the song-anime-relation comment field. | |||
# For uncredited songs, document "Uncredited" credit status in the song-anime-relation comment field. | |||
## However, given this feature currently does not exist, the interim solution is to add this information via a comment CREQ to the song-anime-relation. | |||
## To support the documentation of uncredited songs, timestamp data could also be documented into CREQ messages. Timestamp data is considered [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research original research], and not a source. | |||
## Comment CREQs used to document this information should be '''filed then immediately revoked''', so that they do not enter the CREQ queue. | |||
The standard template for adding such data is as follows. For any corner cases, reasonable discretion should be used. | The standard template for adding such data into CREQ messages is as follows. For any corner cases, reasonable discretion should be used. | ||
CREQ NOTE TEMPLATE | CREQ NOTE TEMPLATE | ||
Ep 1: (~3:27, <<any special notes>>, Verified with file [File ID]); (~14:45, <<any special notes>>, Verified with files [File ID]|[File ID]) | Ep 1: (~3:27, <<any special notes>>, Verified with file [File ID]); (~14:45, <<any special notes>>, Verified with files [File ID]|[File ID]) | ||
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</pre> | </pre> | ||
=====Generating | =====Generating Comment CREQs to document song-anime relation data===== | ||
[[File:Cmt_creq_songanimerel.png|600px|thumb|text-bottom|right|'''Step 1:''' click on the "Add/Edit Related Anime" button on the song's page.<br> | [[File:Cmt_creq_songanimerel.png|600px|thumb|text-bottom|right|'''Step 1:''' click on the "Add/Edit Related Anime" button on the song's page.<br> | ||
'''Step 2:''' | '''Step 2:''' the 1st button is the CREQ History button.]] | ||
Currently, [https://tracker.anidb.net/view.php?id=3543 AniDB does not | Currently, [https://tracker.anidb.net/view.php?id=3543 AniDB does not directly expose the Comment CREQ button] for song-anime-relations. The 2nd screenshot shows where the button would be, after the feature request is fulfilled. Otherwise, in lieu of a button, users can generate a Comment CREQ directly using the following link template: | ||
TEMPLATE | TEMPLATE | ||
<nowiki>https://anidb.net/admin/creq/?creq.cmt=1&id=<<Entry ID>>&tb=<<database table name>></nowiki> | <nowiki>https://anidb.net/admin/creq/?creq.cmt=1&id=<<Entry ID>>&tb=<<database table name>></nowiki> | ||
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The table name is always ''songanimereltb'' for song-anime-relations. The ID can be obtained by visiting a particular relation's creq history page (see screenshot), and getting it from the URL of the creq history page. | The table name is always ''songanimereltb'' for song-anime-relations. The ID can be obtained by visiting a particular relation's creq history page (see screenshot), and getting it from the URL of the creq history page. | ||
For example, in this | For example, in this CREQ history page URL, '''44785''' is the song-anime-relation ID, and '''songanimereltb''' is the table. | ||
<nowiki>https://anidb.net/admin/creq/?do.showhistov=1&id=44785&table=songanimereltb</nowiki> | <nowiki>https://anidb.net/admin/creq/?do.showhistov=1&id=44785&table=songanimereltb</nowiki> | ||