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Currently, [https://tracker.anidb.net/view.php?id=3539 AniDB does not have the ability] to add comments to song-anime-relations to document credit information. Therefore, the solution is to add this information via a comment creq to the song-anime-relation. | Currently, [https://tracker.anidb.net/view.php?id=3539 AniDB does not have the ability] to add comments to song-anime-relations to document credit information. Therefore, the solution is to add this information via a comment creq to the song-anime-relation. | ||
# | # Note: timestamp data is considered [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research original research], and therefore not a credible source. Only official credits is considered acceptable source data to document into song-anime-relation comments, whenever that feature is implemented. | ||
## Timestamp data, as original research, could still be added to the comment creq. | ## Timestamp data, as original research, could still be added to the comment creq. | ||
Revision as of 23:10, 12 March 2023
You know a Song for an Anime that's not listed...
AniDB is a user-driven database and every user can add new songs. So if you know a song for an Anime that's not yet in AniDB we encourage you to add it. We also ask you to include as much info as possible when adding a new song, it's for all users' benefit.
Where can I add new Songs?!
There are four ways to add new songs:
- The first one is to reach using the Songlist from the main menu at the left. At the bottom of the page you can find the "Add Song" button.
- The second way is to search for a song using the drop-down search, if the song in question isn't found the following page informing you of the failed search result has the "Add Song" button at the bottom. Once you click it you're on the "Add Song" page. (Recommended way, although songs often have same titles and in case of an exact match, that entry will be shown instead).
- The third way, which is also the recommended way, is to add songs from within the anime entry page. Either from under the "Contribution" tab or from the "Songs" tab by clicking on add/edit songs (in case of no songs added for given anime entry, the "Songs" tab will be named "Add Songs" instead). After you've clicked on add(/edit) songs from any of the locations previously listed, you'll be directed to a new page with 2 or 3 tabs. "Current" tab will only be there if there's already song(s) added for the anime, this tab will list them and allows you to edit/issue a creq them. From "Add A New Relation" tab you can create a relation between an already existing song and the given anime. "Add New Song" tab is actually a link to the "Add Song" page. The reason this is the recommended way is because with this method it'll set the relation between the anime and song automatically, you just need to specify the relation type and the rest of the asked information.
- The fourth way is the advanced way - mass-add. This can only be accessed from an existing collection entry (Album/Single) by clicking on the "Add Songs" button when there are no songs added yet to the given collection, or by clicking on add/edit songs from under the Tracklist tab in case there already are some songs added. A new page will open, the "Massadd New Songs" tab is the one you want. This is recommended for adding anime OSTs since it will add all the songs the parser doesn't recognize to the database (if the parser finds a matching song name, it will try to add that to the collection, so check any matches!) and will also add the relations between the collection and all the songs. You will need to add song-anime relations later, however.
Basic info you should include when adding a Song
Main Name (Romaji)
Please check our Capitalisation and Kanji & Romaji Guideline for further assistance with this. You should use sanitised capping on top of that. Which means titles in ALL CAPS should be written lower case. For example "CALL ME CALL ME" becomes Call Me Call Me instead. The default subtitle separator is a colon (:) and second one is a hyphen (-); titles in the format of original_japanese_title ~subtitle, original_japanese_title -subtitle- and so forth become title: subtitle; original_japanese_title - subtitle ~second_subtitle~ and so forth become title: subtitle - second_subtitle.
Official Name (Kanji)
Please check our Kanji & Romaji Guideline for further assistance with this. Anison is a reliable source for this.
Length
The play length of the song.
Anison URL
Anison stands short for Anime Song Database and is a reliable source on all musical media relating to anime music. You should include a link to the song listed there.
Description
Extra information about the song. See also song-anime relation timestamp data below.
Song info sources
The following are acceptable sources for information on anime songs:
- VIDEO - OPs, EDs and insert songs are generally all given in the video.
- http://anison.info/data/about.html - it's better to use this URL. "Search by" terms explained: 作品 = basically the anime title; 曲 = song name; 人物 = person as in singer, arranger etc.; 音源 = catalogue number.
- Japanese wiki - you'd obviously need to search for the anime title, then look for 主題歌 (the most common title to put songs under), there should generally be all OP, ED and insert songs given and in which eps they're played (if more than 1 OP or ED).
Anison
For detailed information about Anison and how to use it, click this link.
Relations to be set for an added Song
Anime Relation
Anime songs are usually played in an anime, if that wasn't obvious enough. We want of course to know where a song was played. When adding a relation, you should set the proper relation, such as opening or ending and the version, which will be mostly "normal" anyway. You should also set the episode range the song is played.
General Principles
Most of the time, songs are credited with a credit type matching actual usage, or the song is not credited at all. It's only insert song credits that seem to somewhat often have a credit type mismatching the actual usage. The fact that credit type = usage for the other song types the vast majority of the time... is what allowed the "enter the credits" rule to effectively yield the same result as the other way around of "enter the usage"
Therefore, ultimately the more fundamental solution is to enter the usage, and call out the fact that songs are "incorrectly" tagged as a given type when they are actually being used as not that type. This view of "tag the usage" creates less exceptions than "tag the credits", and provides a much simpler policy to follow. This policy was discussed here.
Note | If a song gets played as both opening and ending in different episodes, you should add both relations on their own, with the appropriate episodes listed. |
Types of song-anime relations
- Opening: The song was used during the opening sequence. For clarity, any song that plays (partially or fully) during the opening credits is deemed to be played during the "opening" sequence; as such, its song-episode relation for that episode is set as opening theme, regardless of how the song is credited in the episode credits.
- Ending: The song was used during the ending sequence. For clarity, any song that plays (partially or fully) during the ending credits is deemed to be played during the "ending" sequence; as such, its song-episode relation for that episode is set as ending theme, regardless of how the song is credited in the episode credits.
- Background music: The song was used as background music and is credited as such.
- Insert song: The song was used as an insert song and is credited as such.
- Theme song: The song was used as a theme song and is credited as such.
- Image song: The song was credited as an image song, or was bundled with a character album of image songs for that character. Absent any specific credits for one of the above song types, a song can be marked image song for AniDB purposes.
Song-anime relation timestamp data for non-credited songs
When songs are used in anime, they are not always fully credited in the anime credits. To aid with the documentation and crediting of non-credited song data, one data point that could be documented in AniDB is credit information for uncredited songs.
Currently, AniDB does not have the ability to add comments to song-anime-relations to document credit information. Therefore, the solution is to add this information via a comment creq to the song-anime-relation.
- Note: timestamp data is considered original research, and therefore not a credible source. Only official credits is considered acceptable source data to document into song-anime-relation comments, whenever that feature is implemented.
- Timestamp data, as original research, could still be added to the comment creq.
The standard template for adding such data is as follows. For any corner cases, reasonable discretion should be used.
CREQ NOTE TEMPLATE Ep 1: (~3:27, <<any special notes>>, Verified with file [File ID]); (~14:45, <<any special notes>>, Verified with files [File ID]|[File ID]) Ep 2: (~3:27, <<any special notes>>, Verified with file [File ID]) Ep O3: (~5:33, <<any special notes>>, Verified with file [File ID]) -- note O3 is the letter O, as in O type episodes
Usage notes:
- Providing the File ID is optional but highly encouraged, so that the timestamp can be proved if necessary.
- The File ID must also be a live URL link to the file in question that was used to verify the timestamp.
- The standard anime entry link is https://anidb.net/f99999 where 99999 is the file ID of the file in question.
- Optional: you can also add live URL links to each episode, using https://anidb.net/e999999 as the standard entry link.
- Special notes are used to describe any nuances for a particular timestamp, such as a timestamp coming from a specific release other than the original broadcast.
- In instances where the song type (e.g. OP, ED, IN, etc) is needed to disambiguate, include the song types in [ ] square bracket tags. Please use the standard Anison 2-letter tags as found here.
- BGM can be used for background music, as Anison does not currently have an acronym for it.
Here is a fictitious example of a song that is used in the Psycho-Pass series multiple times.
EXAMPLE Ep 1: (~3:27, TV Broadcast, Verified with file [url=https://anidb.net/file/1143174]ID1143174[/url]); (~14:45, BD/DVD, Verified with files [url=https://anidb.net/file/1179631]f1179631[/url]|[url=https://anidb.net/file/1418180]f1418180[/url]) -- note multiple files used for verification of both BD and DVD Ep 2: (~3:27, Verified with file [url=https://anidb.net/file/1145419]f1145419[/url]) Ep O3: (~5:33, New Edit, Verified with file [url=https://anidb.net/file/1447708]f1447708[/url]) -- note O3 is the letter O, as in O type episodes
Generating comment creqs to document song-anime relation timestamp data
Currently, AniDB does not always directly expose the comment creq button for song-anime-relations. The 2nd screenshot shows where the button would be, if you have access to it. Otherwise, in lieu of a button, users can generate a comment creq directly using the following link template:
TEMPLATE https://anidb.net/admin/creq/?creq.cmt=1&id=<<Entry ID>>&tb=<<database table name>> EXAMPLE https://anidb.net/admin/creq/?creq.cmt=1&id=44785&tb=songanimereltb
The table name is always songanimereltb for song-anime-relations. The ID can be obtained by visiting a particular relation's creq history page (see screenshot), and getting it from the URL of the creq history page. For example, in this creq history page URL, 44785 is the song-anime-relation ID, and songanimereltb is the table.
https://anidb.net/admin/creq/?do.showhistov=1&id=44785&table=songanimereltb
Collection Relation
The album/single the song was released on. Songs can be part of several collections.
Note | DO NOT add "instrumental only/karaoke" and/or "TV versions" of songs as separate entries! Those can be set as a relation type for the normal song entry on the Collection page they belong to. |
Staff
Valid sources to add song staff info from are from the video, official website of the anime, Japanese wiki and Anison. Third party English sites are NOT valid sources to add staff data from.
Song Relation
Is the song a remix or another language version of another song? This relation covers such cases. Examples for Remix Version and Another Language Version