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Denied other tag-related suggestions. Also denied for adding anime descriptions on technical concerns: no badges that require manual update.
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(Denied other tag-related suggestions. Also denied for adding anime descriptions on technical concerns: no badges that require manual update.)
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** I don't know about interesting, but I think it'd be a pain to implement and even to decide on parameters on. I see possible technical difficulties. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
** I don't know about interesting, but I think it'd be a pain to implement and even to decide on parameters on. I see possible technical difficulties. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
*** Interesting from the point that it would encourage more people to watch much older shows and see the evolution of Japanese animation through the years. As for the technical difficulties, I can definitely respect that, not only for the implementation, but for the computational load of the server as well. Some suggestions in case you bother with it: 1) The calculation should be a percentage of the total number of production years. There are currently 92 different production years. This number changes only once per year (It is very difficult for new entries from the missing years of the '20's, '40's and 50's to be added, if there are any) . So, there is no need to make the system calculate it every single time. It's a number you can set manually in the code and change it once per year. The calculation of the number of production years for every user has already been implemented in "My Reports". (But,I'm certain these are things you have already thought of. Maybe there are some more complicated issues. After all, I have done very little programming in my life to be of any more help). 2) The percentages should be kept the same e.x. I have seen from 76 different years so I would be a Level 7. 3) I don't think a special constraint would be a good idea (e.x. having seen at least 5 anime from that year) as it would be unfair (there is only one entry for some years) --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
*** Interesting from the point that it would encourage more people to watch much older shows and see the evolution of Japanese animation through the years. As for the technical difficulties, I can definitely respect that, not only for the implementation, but for the computational load of the server as well. Some suggestions in case you bother with it: 1) The calculation should be a percentage of the total number of production years. There are currently 92 different production years. This number changes only once per year (It is very difficult for new entries from the missing years of the '20's, '40's and 50's to be added, if there are any) . So, there is no need to make the system calculate it every single time. It's a number you can set manually in the code and change it once per year. The calculation of the number of production years for every user has already been implemented in "My Reports". (But,I'm certain these are things you have already thought of. Maybe there are some more complicated issues. After all, I have done very little programming in my life to be of any more help). 2) The percentages should be kept the same e.x. I have seen from 76 different years so I would be a Level 7. 3) I don't think a special constraint would be a good idea (e.x. having seen at least 5 anime from that year) as it would be unfair (there is only one entry for some years) --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
* It would be nice if those that actually contribute to the AniDB by adding new content or fixing present content got a few more Achievements:
** Creation of a '''new Anime Tag''' *with* description. (Since tag creation is linked to the user this should be possible to check, double-checking for a description might be problematic though. Especially, if checked now... i.e. I would have added descriptions for all those too lazy to do so. Not sure how to resolve this.)
** '''Add'''ing of '''anime tags''' to anime. (I find that there are many anime that could be tagged, but no one seems to bother doing so, so an achievement based incentive might be nice. Alas this could be abused. Maybe look up added tags that got at least 2-3 votes, thus had someone agree to them. Obviously, "agreed on" does not make "wrong" tags any more relevant, but...)
** For assigning '''Category entries''' to anime. (Quite a few anime could use more category entries, an achievement would be another incentive. I am not sure, if anyone can add category entries and needs no OK by an admin, if so, this might get ugly. Otherwise OK'ed category entries could be a relevant statistic.)
** For adding an '''anime description'''. (Maybe restrict it to actually writing one. Not sure how much bother it is to parse "- written by XYZ" is.)
** There are probably many more "contribution achievements", just mentioned those I normally look into. --[[User:Foo2|foo2]]
*** The tag/category suggestions are bad for now. We're working on the new tag system and it would be pointless. Furthermore, anything that passes through adding without mod control is bound to be abused and to create more issues. As for adding anime descriptions, considering I've written many descriptions for lots of stuff (anime, tags, chars, and so on) and never added "written by Hinoe" to my description, I'd say it's nearly impossible. That's more akin to something a mod might manually award to users who do that often. In addition, I think "fixing content" is covered by the creq award to some extent, and it's really hard to make a system figure out what's a minor description fix and what's a major overhaul or a complete rewrite. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
**** With the new tag system, I think the tag/category stuff can be axed. Adding a description would need to be done manually, not prone to happening, and can't be based on written by xyz. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 10:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC)




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** Lexicon has been dead for a year now thanks to the current tag system, so... let's axe this? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 10:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
** Lexicon has been dead for a year now thanks to the current tag system, so... let's axe this? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 10:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
** Lexicon is dead and buried, and it's also not gonna happen for the new tag system. I have enough stupid tags to handle without more being added for the sake of a badge. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:58, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
** Lexicon is dead and buried, and it's also not gonna happen for the new tag system. I have enough stupid tags to handle without more being added for the sake of a badge. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:58, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
* It would be nice if those that actually contribute to the AniDB by adding new content or fixing present content got a few more Achievements:
** Creation of a '''new Anime Tag''' *with* description. (Since tag creation is linked to the user this should be possible to check, double-checking for a description might be problematic though. Especially, if checked now... i.e. I would have added descriptions for all those too lazy to do so. Not sure how to resolve this.)
** '''Add'''ing of '''anime tags''' to anime. (I find that there are many anime that could be tagged, but no one seems to bother doing so, so an achievement based incentive might be nice. Alas this could be abused. Maybe look up added tags that got at least 2-3 votes, thus had someone agree to them. Obviously, "agreed on" does not make "wrong" tags any more relevant, but...)
** For assigning '''Category entries''' to anime. (Quite a few anime could use more category entries, an achievement would be another incentive. I am not sure, if anyone can add category entries and needs no OK by an admin, if so, this might get ugly. Otherwise OK'ed category entries could be a relevant statistic.)
** For adding an '''anime description'''. (Maybe restrict it to actually writing one. Not sure how much bother it is to parse "- written by XYZ" is.)
** There are probably many more "contribution achievements", just mentioned those I normally look into. --[[User:Foo2|foo2]]
*** The tag/category suggestions are bad for now. We're working on the new tag system and it would be pointless. Furthermore, anything that passes through adding without mod control is bound to be abused and to create more issues. As for adding anime descriptions, considering I've written many descriptions for lots of stuff (anime, tags, chars, and so on) and never added "written by Hinoe" to my description, I'd say it's nearly impossible. That's more akin to something a mod might manually award to users who do that often. In addition, I think "fixing content" is covered by the creq award to some extent, and it's really hard to make a system figure out what's a minor description fix and what's a major overhaul or a complete rewrite. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
**** With the new tag system, I think the tag/category stuff can be axed. Adding a description would need to be done manually, not prone to happening, and can't be based on written by xyz. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 10:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
*** Tag/category stuff denied for the reasons above. Descriptions stuff is bound to be impossible to implement; it would clearly require lots of work to be done for ''each user'', so I'm going to assume what seems obvious here and also file it as denied. So all denied. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 02:20, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
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