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*** In that case, we might put this idea on hold until the idea of how a new system would be takes shape. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]]
*** In that case, we might put this idea on hold until the idea of how a new system would be takes shape. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]]
*** Ok, I was thinking about this, and I ''really'' think the way Lexicon works now is mostly ok. While yes, the cat/tag/ctag/crtag system needs to change, I think Lexicon itself is ok. Lexicon entries are quite well-moderated (requiring add creqs and stuff), they need the user to actually work (while not requiring them to know japanese or any such difficulties related to adding creators, adding anime, etc; just some common sense and a brain should generally suffice), and, most importantly, they help create higher quality tags by promoting integration, etc, not to mention the pic. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]]
*** Ok, I was thinking about this, and I ''really'' think the way Lexicon works now is mostly ok. While yes, the cat/tag/ctag/crtag system needs to change, I think Lexicon itself is ok. Lexicon entries are quite well-moderated (requiring add creqs and stuff), they need the user to actually work (while not requiring them to know japanese or any such difficulties related to adding creators, adding anime, etc; just some common sense and a brain should generally suffice), and, most importantly, they help create higher quality tags by promoting integration, etc, not to mention the pic. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]]
* [http://anidb.net/tag111 World Masterpiece Theater] series anime watched --unknown author
** I like this one a lot. They're not linked closely like other creator/show badges, but it makes sense because the brand name has its own touch and is generally based off classic literature. Culture never hurts. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]]
** I agree! Not to mention (most of them) are really good! --[[User:JQF|JQF]]




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**** (context: saying the above numbers are bad) if i'm going to adjust the values i might as well actually use the real numbers --[[User:Worf|Worf]] on IRC
**** (context: saying the above numbers are bad) if i'm going to adjust the values i might as well actually use the real numbers --[[User:Worf|Worf]] on IRC
** I agree that some numbers need tweaking, most of all the Time Watched/Wasted, since it's very out-of-whack with the others. While random suggestions are popping up; could we figure out a badge for real collectors (aka those who want more than just the episodes, but look for all available specials, trailers, ... as well)? Then again, such a badge would more likely be a percentage of eps in mylist over the total number of eps in the anime in mylist; than one with levels where getting X files would bring you to level Y... --[[User:Shitenshi|Shitenshi]]
** I agree that some numbers need tweaking, most of all the Time Watched/Wasted, since it's very out-of-whack with the others. While random suggestions are popping up; could we figure out a badge for real collectors (aka those who want more than just the episodes, but look for all available specials, trailers, ... as well)? Then again, such a badge would more likely be a percentage of eps in mylist over the total number of eps in the anime in mylist; than one with levels where getting X files would bring you to level Y... --[[User:Shitenshi|Shitenshi]]
* "Achievement" badge for having numerous stalled and/or dropped entries. --[[User:Xenodor|Xenodor]]
** Why the hell would you want that? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]]
*** Primarily just for reminding/encouraging users to watch what they had initially started, e.g. if user has reached over 50 stalled anime on their mylist. Badge would disappear if the value decreases below the threshold. Alternatively thought about an achievement depending on the watched-% (watched episodes / mylist episodes), but this could be rather easy to get for anyone who's only adding already seen anime to their lists. --[[User:Xenodor|Xenodor]]
**** While I somewhat see where this is coming from, I have strong doubts about the actual usefulness or value of such a non-achievement. If anything, it looks to me more like a "coward medal", so to speak, and I fail to see why we would want that. The badges are supposed to be something you'd show off to your not-so-hardcore fellows (lol, am I really saying this?), not a system of reminders telling you that you missed an episode of so-and-so franchise or that you're late in x or y series. They're supposed to be a general description of, well, achievements (oh, Captain Obvious, you don't say?! I'd never have guessed! :P); for reports on their status in series and franchises and such, AniDB has tons of much more useful features. Just my personal opinion, though. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]]




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* Obscurity Award - Obscure anime defined as having a user count from 10 to 500 and an ended date at least a one year prior to the present.  Maximum achievement awarded for watching half of all obscure anime.  Steps by standard percentages.  The numbers are somewhat arbitrary and up for discussion.  Anime with very few users are often almost impossible to find and counting them would be pointless.  The moving wall of one year is to exclude shows that are simply new, not obscure.  [[User:Reuther|Reuther]]
* Obscurity Award - Obscure anime defined as having a user count from 10 to 500 and an ended date at least a one year prior to the present.  Maximum achievement awarded for watching half of all obscure anime.  Steps by standard percentages.  The numbers are somewhat arbitrary and up for discussion.  Anime with very few users are often almost impossible to find and counting them would be pointless.  The moving wall of one year is to exclude shows that are simply new, not obscure.  [[User:Reuther|Reuther]]
** I like it. Available English language subs for the entire anime are a must, and solve the issue of "very" few users (also fixing the reason for 50% instead of 100% imo). As you said, the numbers are arbitrary and up for discussion, but I like one year from the end date. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
** I like it. Available English language subs for the entire anime are a must, and solve the issue of "very" few users (also fixing the reason for 50% instead of 100% imo). As you said, the numbers are arbitrary and up for discussion, but I like one year from the end date. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
* Watching a film in a theater. While I know people could cheat on this, of course they can cheat on everything else. I think it would be pretty cool, especially with the current Ghibli showings. [[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:51, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
** No. Please. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
* Having a certain percentage of your anime on DVD. This might actually help the industry... [[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:51, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
** No. Please. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)




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* Bleach and Naruto badges? I'm not a fan of either series, but they are big. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]]
* [http://anidb.net/tag111 World Masterpiece Theater] series anime watched --unknown author
** I think they were denied on account of being shitty. Don't quote me on it, though. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:09, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
** I like this one a lot. They're not linked closely like other creator/show badges, but it makes sense because the brand name has its own touch and is generally based off classic literature. Culture never hurts. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]]
** I agree! Not to mention (most of them) are really good! --[[User:JQF|JQF]]




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** Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou
** Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou
** Kokoro Toshokan
** Kokoro Toshokan
= Denied ideas =
* Bleach and Naruto badges? I'm not a fan of either series, but they are big. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]]
** I think they were denied on account of being shitty. Don't quote me on it, though. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:09, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
* Watching a film in a theater. While I know people could cheat on this, of course they can cheat on everything else. I think it would be pretty cool, especially with the current Ghibli showings. [[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:51, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
** No. Please. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
* Having a certain percentage of your anime on DVD. This might actually help the industry... [[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:51, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
** No. Please. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
* "Achievement" badge for having numerous stalled and/or dropped entries. --[[User:Xenodor|Xenodor]]
** Why the hell would you want that? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]]
*** Primarily just for reminding/encouraging users to watch what they had initially started, e.g. if user has reached over 50 stalled anime on their mylist. Badge would disappear if the value decreases below the threshold. Alternatively thought about an achievement depending on the watched-% (watched episodes / mylist episodes), but this could be rather easy to get for anyone who's only adding already seen anime to their lists. --[[User:Xenodor|Xenodor]]
**** While I somewhat see where this is coming from, I have strong doubts about the actual usefulness or value of such a non-achievement. If anything, it looks to me more like a "coward medal", so to speak, and I fail to see why we would want that. The badges are supposed to be something you'd show off to your not-so-hardcore fellows (lol, am I really saying this?), not a system of reminders telling you that you missed an episode of so-and-so franchise or that you're late in x or y series. They're supposed to be a general description of, well, achievements (oh, Captain Obvious, you don't say?! I'd never have guessed! :P); for reports on their status in series and franchises and such, AniDB has tons of much more useful features. Just my personal opinion, though. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]]

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