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:You, sir, are a nut. --[[User:Pelican|Pelican]] 01:32, 1 Aug 2005 (CEST) | :You, sir, are a nut. --[[User:Pelican|Pelican]] 01:32, 1 Aug 2005 (CEST) | ||
:I'm eating greengages at the moment. ...just thought you guys might like to know. Right, point by point: | |||
:*''Transcription is phonetic by its definition'' An utterly false assertion. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonetics Phonetics] ...''"is concerned with the actual properties of speech sounds (phones) as well as those of non-speech sounds, and their production, audition and perception, as opposed to phonology, which operates at the level of sound systems and abstract sound units"''. Transcription '''need not''' be phonetically accurate. The IPA system and similar aim to be as detailed as possible, but transcription systems between languages are almost always phonemic, and are in the case of '''all''' romanisation schemes used for japanese. | |||
:*''actually NO way to "follow transcription rules strictly"'' As in, obey the rules of a particular defined system, as opposed to (as we do in anidb) seletively ignoring some of them. Wikipedia follows the modified hepburn rules strictly, fansubbers almost never do. | |||
:*''very bad at being transcription of Japanese to English'' False. In fact, it's a much better transcription system for western readers (ie, those who need the roman script anyway), and loses exactly the same in transliteration as Kunrei-shiki. | |||
:*''replacing Hepburn with wa-puro as much as possible'' Don't be silly. Any time you think you should be using waapuro, you might as well be using kana instead. | |||
:*''"Non-standard" is not good'' You're option is no more standard than mine. Less so, even. | |||
:*''in part actually conflict even with technical limitations set by exp, like use of macron'' This I can only presume you're misunderstanding. Go read the section heading that the macron rule is under again, whydoncha. | |||
:Anyway, you appear to be on the vodka tonight, can we resume the debate tomorrow please? --[[User:Rar|Rar]] 02:58, 1 Aug 2005 (CEST) | |||