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-* I'm... not quite sure how this hasn't been suggested before, but I'd like to see an achievement for SHAFT shows under Shinbou's style. I took the liberty of checking the entire list of shows that credit Shinbou as either director or chief director, and the list of shows with Animation Work credits for SHAFT, and of crossing them over to see the results. It appears to me that the shows they create are only memorable in any manner (good or bad, depending on your taste) when SHAFT is doing what Shinbou wants, and when Shinbou can make SHAFT do what he wants. The rest is like Evangelion without Anno Hideaki; it might be good, but it's radically different. As such, I'd like a badge for shows that fulfill both: 1) Animation Work credits for SHAFT; and 2) either Direction or Chief Direction credits for Shinbou. Opinions on this (rather unusual, I know) suggestion? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 24 February 2013 (CET)
+* [https://anidb.net/cr59 Shinbou]. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:53, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
-** Not doable at the moment. Well, it would be doable but someone would have to create that list manually. And keep it updated. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:33, 28 February 2013 (CET)
+** This is a replacement dated 2015 for a suggestion from 2013 concerning Shinbou and SHAFT. The old debate is no longer relevant here. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:53, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
-*** Moved the rest of this discussion to a more fitting section, namely that of the denied ideas since that's what a talk on IRC made clear. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
-*** '''TOTALLY UNRELATED''' to the creator math idea but still on Shinbou and SHAFT: is it currently possible to limit an achievement by date? If not, I'll just file it as a feature request. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
-*** See my comments below on Gainax. Either go with just a SHAFT or just a Shinbou badge. There's no point in excluding some old stuff because you don't want to watch What's Michael or Metal Fighter Miku for your achievement. Also keep in mind that SHAFT has done some good shows without Shinbou (and vice versa) and that they have also put out garbage together. If you're a completionist, you have to suffer anyway. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)
-**** Some time ago, I have no idea when, I mentioned, probably on IRC, that I wanted to convert that idea into a Shinbou badge (SHAFT badge or no SHAFT badge being not a concern of mine at that point, or indeed at this point). So yeah, I think that works. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 07:40, 10 May 2015 (CEST)
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-* This references a talk in another section, CTRL+F for Shinbou or SHAFT for more info. Moved here because it's a dead feature request. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
+* I'm... not quite sure how this hasn't been suggested before, but I'd like to see an achievement for SHAFT shows under Shinbou's style. I took the liberty of checking the entire list of shows that credit Shinbou as either director or chief director, and the list of shows with Animation Work credits for SHAFT, and of crossing them over to see the results. It appears to me that the shows they create are only memorable in any manner (good or bad, depending on your taste) when SHAFT is doing what Shinbou wants, and when Shinbou can make SHAFT do what he wants. The rest is like Evangelion without Anno Hideaki; it might be good, but it's radically different. As such, I'd like a badge for shows that fulfill both: 1) Animation Work credits for SHAFT; and 2) either Direction or Chief Direction credits for Shinbou. Opinions on this (rather unusual, I know) suggestion? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 24 February 2013 (CET)
-** TL;DR a list that took two creators into account or did any sort of creator math would have to be manually created. [[User:Ommina|ommina]] says it's not going to happen as an automatic feature without much work. Manually updating such a list is '''highly''' problematic because it requires a pretty high access level (file-based, no admin frontend to the system, one not happening this century despite my arguments in support of one) so it's not gonna happen either. Just below is an older talk to between worf and myself which is stored for reference purposes only since it's pretty useless by now. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
+** Not doable at the moment. Well, it would be doable but someone would have to create that list manually. And keep it updated. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:33, 28 February 2013 (CET)
 *** You mean like <strike>this</strike>? :) --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 05:30, 28 February 2013 (CET) (Note: previously linked to a page to be nuked; page contains a few manually crafted (and now useless) lists of anime.)
 **** Yeah, except your list isn't very useful. And keeping it up2date and feeding it to the achievement system automatically is also not going to work. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 22:56, 28 February 2013 (CET)
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 ******* Yeah, there's a problem with that kicking people into work thing. I'm afraid I can't really help there. Can we have that sort of feature into a wishlist, if nothing else? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
 ******** Just because people only check the last reply, I'll say again: feature not going to happen, use just one of the creators for now, or whatever really. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
+*** '''TOTALLY UNRELATED''' to the creator math idea but still on Shinbou and SHAFT: is it currently possible to limit an achievement by date? If not, I'll just file it as a feature request. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
+*** See my comments below on Gainax. Either go with just a SHAFT or just a Shinbou badge. There's no point in excluding some old stuff because you don't want to watch What's Michael or Metal Fighter Miku for your achievement. Also keep in mind that SHAFT has done some good shows without Shinbou (and vice versa) and that they have also put out garbage together. If you're a completionist, you have to suffer anyway. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)
+**** Some time ago, I have no idea when, I mentioned, probably on IRC, that I wanted to convert that idea into a Shinbou badge (SHAFT badge or no SHAFT badge being not a concern of mine at that point, or indeed at this point). So yeah, I think that works. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 07:40, 10 May 2015 (CEST)
+***** Moved to denied, replaced by a suggestion for a Shinbou badge. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:53, 29 January 2018 (UCT)