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* For the granted creqs achievement, add a second special constraint: also require a ratio between granted and denied (alongside the existing one, the difference between them), instead of just the difference. Example ratios for levels 1-8: 1, 3, 5, 8, 12, 20, 30, 50. How that would work: a | * For the granted creqs achievement, add a second special constraint: also require a ratio between granted and denied (alongside the existing one, the difference between them), instead of just the difference. Example ratios for levels 1-8: 1, 3, 5, 8, 12, 20, 30, 50. How that would work: a person with 10000 granted creqs and 200 denied ones (ratio 50) would be on level 8; with one more granted and one more denied creq, they would be set back to level 7, due to the ratio dropping to circa 49.756. Currently, they'd need a ton of more denied creqs to fall back to level 7. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] | ||
** I like the idea of a creq badge with ratio. Ratio is a more honest representation imo. --[[User:msr|msr]] | ** I like the idea of a creq badge with ratio. Ratio is a more honest representation imo. --[[User:msr|msr]] | ||
** Fixed a glaring math issue which escaped me for all this time, duh. Also just as a reminder: I'm saying I think both ratio ''and'' difference should act as constraints, not ''just'' ratio. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST) | |||
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** Take the Haruhi image from the "joined a club" achievement to here? That one would need another image, not sure what. I first thought of something Higurashi-related, possibly from a punishment game, but I don't think it works really well, so I'm trying to think of something else. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] | ** Take the Haruhi image from the "joined a club" achievement to here? That one would need another image, not sure what. I first thought of something Higurashi-related, possibly from a punishment game, but I don't think it works really well, so I'm trying to think of something else. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] | ||
** This idea doesn't seem quit right, it could lead to every anidb member trying to create a club in order to get it, leading to a massive number of clubs that are the same and scattered around with a low number of members. It has the felling of "I want the biggest number of follower" facebook like, sorry for the analogy. --[[User:microdark|microdark]] | ** This idea doesn't seem quit right, it could lead to every anidb member trying to create a club in order to get it, leading to a massive number of clubs that are the same and scattered around with a low number of members. It has the felling of "I want the biggest number of follower" facebook like, sorry for the analogy. --[[User:microdark|microdark]] | ||
*** Fair point. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST) | |||
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*** Primarily just for reminding/encouraging users to watch what they had initially started, e.g. if user has reached over 50 stalled anime on their mylist. Badge would disappear if the value decreases below the threshold. Alternatively thought about an achievement depending on the watched-% (watched episodes / mylist episodes), but this could be rather easy to get for anyone who's only adding already seen anime to their lists. --[[User:Xenodor|Xenodor]] | *** Primarily just for reminding/encouraging users to watch what they had initially started, e.g. if user has reached over 50 stalled anime on their mylist. Badge would disappear if the value decreases below the threshold. Alternatively thought about an achievement depending on the watched-% (watched episodes / mylist episodes), but this could be rather easy to get for anyone who's only adding already seen anime to their lists. --[[User:Xenodor|Xenodor]] | ||
**** While I somewhat see where this is coming from, I have strong doubts about the actual usefulness or value of such a non-achievement. If anything, it looks to me more like a "coward medal", so to speak, and I fail to see why we would want that. The badges are supposed to be something you'd show off to your not-so-hardcore fellows (lol, am I really saying this?), not a system of reminders telling you that you missed an episode of so-and-so franchise or that you're late in x or y series. They're supposed to be a general description of, well, achievements (oh, Captain Obvious, you don't say?! I'd never have guessed! :P); for reports on their status in series and franchises and such, AniDB has tons of much more useful features. Just my personal opinion, though. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] | **** While I somewhat see where this is coming from, I have strong doubts about the actual usefulness or value of such a non-achievement. If anything, it looks to me more like a "coward medal", so to speak, and I fail to see why we would want that. The badges are supposed to be something you'd show off to your not-so-hardcore fellows (lol, am I really saying this?), not a system of reminders telling you that you missed an episode of so-and-so franchise or that you're late in x or y series. They're supposed to be a general description of, well, achievements (oh, Captain Obvious, you don't say?! I'd never have guessed! :P); for reports on their status in series and franchises and such, AniDB has tons of much more useful features. Just my personal opinion, though. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] | ||
* How about Collection Badges for shows heavily based in & around other countries? For example, Canada could have Akage no Anne, Kaze no Shoujo Emily, Skating Ring Kaleidoscope and Wakakusa no Charlotte, Italy could have Gunslinger Girl, Hetalia, Ristorante Paradiso and Thermae Romae, France could have Croisee in a Foreign Labyrinth, Les Miserables: Shoujo Cosette, Rose of Versailles and The Three Musketeers, and so on. --[[User:JQF|JQF]] | * How about Collection Badges for shows heavily based in & around other countries? For example, Canada could have Akage no Anne, Kaze no Shoujo Emily, Skating Ring Kaleidoscope and Wakakusa no Charlotte, Italy could have Gunslinger Girl, Hetalia, Ristorante Paradiso and Thermae Romae, France could have Croisee in a Foreign Labyrinth, Les Miserables: Shoujo Cosette, Rose of Versailles and The Three Musketeers, and so on. --[[User:JQF|JQF]] | ||
** I'm afraid I really fail to see the point of this one. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST) | |||
* How about a "Completed a Genre" badge? For example, let's say I have watched EVERY shoujo-ai anime there is in DB. Also a "Complete Transformers/Mazinger Z/Getter Robo" would be cool, like with LoGH, Macross, Gundam. --[[User:greekot|greeksot]] | * How about a "Completed a Genre" badge? For example, let's say I have watched EVERY shoujo-ai anime there is in DB. Also a "Complete Transformers/Mazinger Z/Getter Robo" would be cool, like with LoGH, Macross, Gundam. --[[User:greekot|greeksot]] | ||
** Viable only for major genres, but I suppose it's a nice idea for them. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST) | |||
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* How about an achievements based on the user's favorite characters? User would first need to have some arbitrary number of favorite characters (say 10), and would then receive a badge if over 50% of favorited characters have a specific tag or property. Examples: Christmas Cake Eater (milf), Connoisseur (loli), Mechanic (mecha), Animal Lover (animal ears), Secondary Demographics (magical girl), Queen's Worshiper (voiced by Kugimiya Rie) etc. Wouldn't be too exploitable since it would be based on a percentage, rather than an absolute number of characters in favorites. --[[User:Azaghal|Azaghal]] 23:21, 22 February 2012 (CET) | * How about an achievements based on the user's favorite characters? User would first need to have some arbitrary number of favorite characters (say 10), and would then receive a badge if over 50% of favorited characters have a specific tag or property. Examples: Christmas Cake Eater (milf), Connoisseur (loli), Mechanic (mecha), Animal Lover (animal ears), Secondary Demographics (magical girl), Queen's Worshiper (voiced by Kugimiya Rie) etc. Wouldn't be too exploitable since it would be based on a percentage, rather than an absolute number of characters in favorites. --[[User:Azaghal|Azaghal]] 23:21, 22 February 2012 (CET) | ||
** That's not really an achievement, that's a preference. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST) | |||
*Timestamps: for badges with levels, I'd like that tooltips could show when the first level was achieved (for any new badges received after achievements were implemented). Or even better if the user could see all the timestamps (unless duplicate) from the main tooltip or from the different level indicators. --[[User:Xenodor|Xenodor]] | * Timestamps: for badges with levels, I'd like that tooltips could show when the first level was achieved (for any new badges received after achievements were implemented). Or even better if the user could see all the timestamps (unless duplicate) from the main tooltip or from the different level indicators. --[[User:Xenodor|Xenodor]] | ||
** I think it's pointless. I already think the tooltip date is pointless. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST) | |||
*Layout: currently users can put quite a lot of junk to their userpages, possibly resulting as a garbled outlook. Since the section for achievements takes quite a lot of space on the userpage as well, I'd consider the possibility of moving achievements under Stats-tab by user's will (like "Customize userpage -> Move achievements under Stats"). --[[User:Xenodor|Xenodor]] | * Layout: currently users can put quite a lot of junk to their userpages, possibly resulting as a garbled outlook. Since the section for achievements takes quite a lot of space on the userpage as well, I'd consider the possibility of moving achievements under Stats-tab by user's will (like "Customize userpage -> Move achievements under Stats"). --[[User:Xenodor|Xenodor]] | ||
** I second that, but to put it under stats tab may create some issues with the size and pictures used for the badges, unless you don't want the pictures. Perhaps you could make it possible to shuffle the clubs/achievements/favourites to the users preference. I don't know if this is possible via CSS already but for the ones who don't know much about stylesheets this may be useful. --[[User:Fendweller|Fendweller]] | ** I second that, but to put it under stats tab may create some issues with the size and pictures used for the badges, unless you don't want the pictures. Perhaps you could make it possible to shuffle the clubs/achievements/favourites to the users preference. I don't know if this is possible via CSS already but for the ones who don't know much about stylesheets this may be useful. --[[User:Fendweller|Fendweller]] | ||
** A related separate suggestion: make the categories collapsible boxes. Instantenously saves up space and the data is still behind one (a few) clicks. [[User:Soulweaver|Soulweaver]] 14:48, 23 April 2012 (CEST) | ** A related separate suggestion: make the categories collapsible boxes. Instantenously saves up space and the data is still behind one (a few) clicks. [[User:Soulweaver|Soulweaver]] 14:48, 23 April 2012 (CEST) | ||
*** Collapsible boxes are a nice idea. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST) | |||
*An interesting addition to the Mylist achievements would be a badge for having seen anime from different production years (from My Reports section). For example, you get your first bar on the badge for having seen anime from 10 different production years, 2 for 20 etc... --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]] | * An interesting addition to the Mylist achievements would be a badge for having seen anime from different production years (from My Reports section). For example, you get your first bar on the badge for having seen anime from 10 different production years, 2 for 20 etc... --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]] | ||
** I don't know about interesting, but I think it'd be a pain to implement and even to decide on parameters on. I see possible technical difficulties. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST) | |||
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** For adding an '''anime description'''. (Maybe restrict it to actually writing one. Not sure how much bother it is to parse "- written by XYZ" is.) | ** For adding an '''anime description'''. (Maybe restrict it to actually writing one. Not sure how much bother it is to parse "- written by XYZ" is.) | ||
** There are probably many more "contribution achievements", just mentioned those I normally look into. --[[User:Foo2|foo2]] | ** There are probably many more "contribution achievements", just mentioned those I normally look into. --[[User:Foo2|foo2]] | ||
*** The tag/category suggestions are bad for now. We're working on the new tag system and it would be pointless. Furthermore, anything that passes through adding without mod control is bound to be abused and to create more issues. As for adding anime descriptions, considering I've written many descriptions for lots of stuff (anime, tags, chars, and so on) and never added "written by Hinoe" to my description, I'd say it's nearly impossible. That's more akin to something a mod might manually award to users who do that often. In addition, I think "fixing content" is covered by the creq award to some extent, and it's really hard to make a system figure out what's a minor description fix and what's a major overhaul or a complete rewrite. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST) | |||
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* Obscurity Award - Obscure anime defined as having a user count from 10 to 500 and an ended date at least a one year prior to the present. Maximum achievement awarded for watching half of all obscure anime. Steps by standard percentages. The numbers are somewhat arbitrary and up for discussion. Anime with very few users are often almost impossible to find and counting them would be pointless. The moving wall of one year is to exclude shows that are simply new, not obscure. [[User:Reuther|Reuther]] | * Obscurity Award - Obscure anime defined as having a user count from 10 to 500 and an ended date at least a one year prior to the present. Maximum achievement awarded for watching half of all obscure anime. Steps by standard percentages. The numbers are somewhat arbitrary and up for discussion. Anime with very few users are often almost impossible to find and counting them would be pointless. The moving wall of one year is to exclude shows that are simply new, not obscure. [[User:Reuther|Reuther]] | ||
** I like it. Available English language subs for the entire anime are a must, and solve the issue of "very" few users (also fixing the reason for 50% instead of 100% imo). As you said, the numbers are arbitrary and up for discussion, but I like one year from the end date. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST) | |||
* Watching a film in a theater. While I know people could cheat on this, of course they can cheat on everything else. I think it would be pretty cool, especially with the current Ghibli showings. [[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:51, 1 October 2012 (CEST) | * Watching a film in a theater. While I know people could cheat on this, of course they can cheat on everything else. I think it would be pretty cool, especially with the current Ghibli showings. [[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:51, 1 October 2012 (CEST) | ||
** No. Please. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST) | |||
* Having a certain percentage of your anime on DVD. This might actually help the industry... [[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:51, 1 October 2012 (CEST) | * Having a certain percentage of your anime on DVD. This might actually help the industry... [[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:51, 1 October 2012 (CEST) | ||
** No. Please. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST) | |||
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= New Anime/Creator Achievements suggestions = | = New Anime/Creator Achievements suggestions = | ||