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** I don't know about interesting, but I think it'd be a pain to implement and even to decide on parameters on. I see possible technical difficulties. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST) | ** I don't know about interesting, but I think it'd be a pain to implement and even to decide on parameters on. I see possible technical difficulties. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST) | ||
*** Interesting from the point that it would encourage more people to watch much older shows and see the evolution of Japanese animation through the years. As for the technical difficulties, I can definitely respect that, not only for the implementation, but for the computational load of the server as well. Some suggestions in case you bother with it: 1) The calculation should be a percentage of the total number of production years. There are currently 92 different production years. This number changes only once per year (It is very difficult for new entries from the missing years of the '20's, '40's and 50's to be added, if there are any) . So, there is no need to make the system calculate it every single time. It's a number you can set manually in the code and change it once per year. The calculation of the number of production years for every user has already been implemented in "My Reports". (But,I'm certain these are things you have already thought of. Maybe there are some more complicated issues. After all, I have done very little programming in my life to be of any more help). 2) The percentages should be kept the same e.x. I have seen from 76 different years so I would be a Level 7. 3) I don't think a special constraint would be a good idea (e.x. having seen at least 5 anime from that year) as it would be unfair (there is only one entry for some years) --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]] | *** Interesting from the point that it would encourage more people to watch much older shows and see the evolution of Japanese animation through the years. As for the technical difficulties, I can definitely respect that, not only for the implementation, but for the computational load of the server as well. Some suggestions in case you bother with it: 1) The calculation should be a percentage of the total number of production years. There are currently 92 different production years. This number changes only once per year (It is very difficult for new entries from the missing years of the '20's, '40's and 50's to be added, if there are any) . So, there is no need to make the system calculate it every single time. It's a number you can set manually in the code and change it once per year. The calculation of the number of production years for every user has already been implemented in "My Reports". (But,I'm certain these are things you have already thought of. Maybe there are some more complicated issues. After all, I have done very little programming in my life to be of any more help). 2) The percentages should be kept the same e.x. I have seen from 76 different years so I would be a Level 7. 3) I don't think a special constraint would be a good idea (e.x. having seen at least 5 anime from that year) as it would be unfair (there is only one entry for some years) --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]] | ||
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* Just to revisit the "achievements can't be assigned to tags" issue (in the other section) since it's been almost a year since it was last mentioned: I'm pretty sure nothing has changed on that front, especially with the new tag system rather around the corner, but can we have that as a high priority feature, achievements-wise? It doesn't need to be implemented ASAP or anything, but it's really high on my wishlist for the achievements system, so next time someone is going to implement a random feature can we have this at least considered? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET) | * Just to revisit the "achievements can't be assigned to tags" issue (in the other section) since it's been almost a year since it was last mentioned: I'm pretty sure nothing has changed on that front, especially with the new tag system rather around the corner, but can we have that as a high priority feature, achievements-wise? It doesn't need to be implemented ASAP or anything, but it's really high on my wishlist for the achievements system, so next time someone is going to implement a random feature can we have this at least considered? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET) | ||
** Moved the suggestion, copyedited for clarity. I talked to [[User:Ommina|ommina]] and he says it MAY happen. No promises were given but he says it's doable. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET) | ** Moved the suggestion, copyedited for clarity. I talked to [[User:Ommina|ommina]] and he says it MAY happen. No promises were given but he says it's doable. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET) | ||
* I have noticed that some anime series don't have 'Anime Achievements'. So I wanted to know why anime series such as Bleach, Fairy Tail, Cat's Eye, You're Under Arrest!, Cobra(Space Cobra, Cobra The animation etc..) don't have 'Anime Achievements'. I think these animes deserve to have their own badges.--[[User:Ken81|Ken81]] ([[User talk:Ken81|talk]]) 02:01, 16 August 2016 (UCT) | * I have noticed that some anime series don't have 'Anime Achievements'. So I wanted to know why anime series such as Bleach, Fairy Tail, Cat's Eye, You're Under Arrest!, Cobra(Space Cobra, Cobra The animation etc..) don't have 'Anime Achievements'. I think these animes deserve to have their own badges.--[[User:Ken81|Ken81]] ([[User talk:Ken81|talk]]) 02:01, 16 August 2016 (UCT) | ||
** Unless the achievement has been denied (see near the end of the page for denied suggestions), many have already been suggested; if they haven't, you can suggest them yourself. They may also be included in a creator achievement (e.g. YUA is more likely to be covered by an eventual Fujishima Kousuke creator badge). --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:16, 29 January 2018 (UCT) | ** Unless the achievement has been denied (see near the end of the page for denied suggestions), many have already been suggested; if they haven't, you can suggest them yourself. They may also be included in a creator achievement (e.g. YUA is more likely to be covered by an eventual Fujishima Kousuke creator badge). --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:16, 29 January 2018 (UCT) | ||
= New Anime/Creator Achievements suggestions = | |||
== Anime == | == Anime == | ||
* How about the [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=5787 Natsume Yuujinchou] series? --[[User:JQF|JQF]] | * How about the [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=5787 Natsume Yuujinchou] series? --[[User:JQF|JQF]] | ||
** I just separated this from the noitaminA badge suggestion above. Kind of borderline. Might be worth looking into, especially if it grows. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET) | ** I just separated this from the noitaminA badge suggestion above. Kind of borderline. Might be worth looking into, especially if it grows. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET) | ||
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=Natsume+Yujincho&do.search=search Natsume Yujinchou] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]] | ** [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=Natsume+Yujincho&do.search=search Natsume Yujinchou] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]] | ||
** Dupe. Moving. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET) | *** Dupe. Moving. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET) | ||
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* I'd like to see an achievement for the Toaru/Raildex series! -- [[User:CDB-Man|CDB-Man]] ([[User talk:CDB-Man|talk]]) 09:04, 8 October 2013 (CEST) | * I'd like to see an achievement for the Toaru/Raildex series! -- [[User:CDB-Man|CDB-Man]] ([[User talk:CDB-Man|talk]]) 09:04, 8 October 2013 (CEST) | ||
** Borderline in terms of [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=5975 size], but it's highly popular, so it qualifies. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET) | ** <s>Borderline in terms of [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=5975 size], but it's highly popular, so it qualifies. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)</s> With Index III, Accelerator, and Railgun T, it's become hard to argue that it's not large enough, so this statement as it was is no longer even applicable. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:49, 5 June 2020 (UTC) | ||
*** Much larger than one of your suggestions below. 100 eps if treated together. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET) | *** Much larger than one of your suggestions below. 100 eps if treated together. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET) | ||
**** Fair enough. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 07:40, 10 May 2015 (CEST) | **** Fair enough. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 07:40, 10 May 2015 (CEST) | ||
** There is [https://anidb.net/anime/10864 Heavy Object], 2015-2016 anime also based on a work by Kamachi Kazuma, so we may potentially be looking at a creator badge here instead. I don't really have a preference and the Heavy Object anime has never struck me as particularly interesting, but it should be noted that it does exist. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 02:02, 5 June 2020 (UTC) | |||
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** I agree with its relevance. Also, at 90 episodes plus whatever happens in the new series without an ep count yet, I wouldn't consider it borderline anymore. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:16, 29 January 2018 (UCT) | ** I agree with its relevance. Also, at 90 episodes plus whatever happens in the new series without an ep count yet, I wouldn't consider it borderline anymore. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:16, 29 January 2018 (UCT) | ||
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=6327 Bakemonogatari]. Needless to say it is one of the most iconic and relevant, multi-seasonal anime of the 2010's. --[[User:Pyunyun|Pyunyun]] | |||
** The NisiOisiN suggestion in the creator badges section would include the entirety of this already, so there is probably no point in a separate (anything)monogatari badge. [[User:Soulweaver|Soulweaver]] ([[User talk:Soulweaver|talk]]) 13:52, 29 July 2019 (UTC) | |||
* [https://anidb.net/anime/2369 Bleach], as one of the former Big Three I'm surprised it wasn't already here, and with the rest of it's story getting animated now it would be time for it I think. [[User:JQF|JQF]] ([[User talk:JQF|talk]]) 10:39, 22 December 2022 (UTC) | |||
* [https://anidb.net/anime/239 Naruto], again surprised it's not already [[User:JQF|JQF]] ([[User talk:JQF|talk]]) 10:39, 22 December 2022 (UTC) | |||
* [https://anidb.net/anime/11739 My Hero Academia], as one of the current Big Three, I think it should be here. [[User:JQF|JQF]] ([[User talk:JQF|talk]]) 10:39, 22 December 2022 (UTC) | |||
* [https://anidb.net/anime/3651 The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya]? [[User:JQF|JQF]] ([[User talk:JQF|talk]]) 10:39, 22 December 2022 (UTC) | |||
* [https://anidb.net/anime/3574 When They Cry]? [[User:JQF|JQF]] ([[User talk:JQF|talk]]) 10:39, 22 December 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Writers, mangaka, etc == | == Writers, mangaka, etc == | ||
* I would like to see a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=1204 Kikuchi Hideyuki] achievement. I am aware the amount of titles based on his works isn't that grand, however everything is in high budget OVA/movie format and he's a well-known author (with the western audience too). Even now, quite a few of his stuff are at least moderately popular (mainly the Vampire Hunter D movies, which are considered classics of the genre). --[[User:Gorgils|Gorgils]] | * I would like to see a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=1204 Kikuchi Hideyuki] achievement. I am aware the amount of titles based on his works isn't that grand, however everything is in high budget OVA/movie format and he's a well-known author (with the western audience too). Even now, quite a few of his stuff are at least moderately popular (mainly the Vampire Hunter D movies, which are considered classics of the genre). --[[User:Gorgils|Gorgils]] | ||
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== Directors == | == Directors == | ||
* I think there should be a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=54 Kon Satoshi] Creator Badge! He's got the highly reputable body of work for it. --[[User:JQF|JQF]] | * I think there should be a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=54 Kon Satoshi] Creator Badge! He's got the highly reputable body of work for it. --[[User:JQF|JQF]] | ||
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== Studios == | == Studios == | ||
* Perhaps also Production I.G. and Madhouse, in addition to the existing Studio 4C. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST) | * Perhaps also Production I.G. and Madhouse, in addition to the existing Studio 4C. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST) | ||
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== Seiyuu == | == Seiyuu == | ||
* Let's not forget a [http://anidb.net/cr2 Wakamoto] badge. --Chroniko on IRC | * Let's not forget a [http://anidb.net/cr2 Wakamoto] badge. --Chroniko on IRC | ||
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== Musicians == | == Musicians == | ||
* I'm not sure if that qualifies but I think [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=241 Kanno Youko] would make a great badge on the creators achievement side. She's a genuinely iconic creator and made tons of great tracks for lots of popular series (which, I admit, include overlaps (Gundam, Macross) and not-so-great series (Macross F, Zankyou no Terror)) in a career spanning over twenty years. I don't know if a music achievement makes sense here but I believe it's worth considering --[[User:Pegase|Pegase]] 04:04, 18 February 2017 (CET) | * I'm not sure if that qualifies but I think [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=241 Kanno Youko] would make a great badge on the creators achievement side. She's a genuinely iconic creator and made tons of great tracks for lots of popular series (which, I admit, include overlaps (Gundam, Macross) and not-so-great series (Macross F, Zankyou no Terror)) in a career spanning over twenty years. I don't know if a music achievement makes sense here but I believe it's worth considering --[[User:Pegase|Pegase]] 04:04, 18 February 2017 (CET) | ||
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== Tags == | == Tags == | ||
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* Please note that tag-based badges are '''currently not addable'''. This is a wishlist item for someday/never. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 02:14, 29 January 2018 (UCT) | |||
** | ** Of note, see worf's statement below. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 02:14, 29 January 2018 (UCT) | ||
*** There is currently no way to award watching anime that have a certain tag. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET) | *** There is currently no way to award watching anime that have a certain tag. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET) | ||
**** There might be one in the future, see the other section. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET) | **** There might be one in the future, see the other section. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET) | ||
* | * Would a [https://anidb.net/t3865 noitaminA] Badge be out of place? --[[User:JQF|JQF]] | ||
** | ** I'm in support of a Noitamina badge. [[User:Soulweaver|Soulweaver]] 14:48, 23 April 2012 (CEST) | ||
*** Revising my previous instance of not caring much to also agree with this one. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 02:14, 29 January 2018 (UCT) | |||
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* I'd like a [https://anidb.net/t4859 Young Animator Training Project] badge. Because it's really cool stuff. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 03:48, 13 October 2012 (CEST) | |||
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* [https://anidb.net/t3763 World Masterpiece Theater] series anime watched --unknown author | |||
** I like this one a lot. They're not linked closely like other creator/show badges, but it makes sense because the brand name has its own touch and is generally based off classic literature. Culture never hurts. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) | ** I like this one a lot. They're not linked closely like other creator/show badges, but it makes sense because the brand name has its own touch and is generally based off classic literature. Culture never hurts. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) | ||
** I agree! Not to mention (most of them) are really good! --[[User:JQF|JQF]] | ** I agree! Not to mention (most of them) are really good! --[[User:JQF|JQF]] | ||
= Anime Classics and/or Genre Packs = | = Anime Classics and/or Genre Packs = | ||
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** Lexicon has been dead for a year now thanks to the current tag system, so... let's axe this? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 10:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC) | ** Lexicon has been dead for a year now thanks to the current tag system, so... let's axe this? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 10:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC) | ||
** Lexicon is dead and buried, and it's also not gonna happen for the new tag system. I have enough stupid tags to handle without more being added for the sake of a badge. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:58, 29 January 2018 (UCT) | ** Lexicon is dead and buried, and it's also not gonna happen for the new tag system. I have enough stupid tags to handle without more being added for the sake of a badge. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:58, 29 January 2018 (UCT) | ||
* It would be nice if those that actually contribute to the AniDB by adding new content or fixing present content got a few more Achievements: | |||
** Creation of a '''new Anime Tag''' *with* description. (Since tag creation is linked to the user this should be possible to check, double-checking for a description might be problematic though. Especially, if checked now... i.e. I would have added descriptions for all those too lazy to do so. Not sure how to resolve this.) | |||
** '''Add'''ing of '''anime tags''' to anime. (I find that there are many anime that could be tagged, but no one seems to bother doing so, so an achievement based incentive might be nice. Alas this could be abused. Maybe look up added tags that got at least 2-3 votes, thus had someone agree to them. Obviously, "agreed on" does not make "wrong" tags any more relevant, but...) | |||
** For assigning '''Category entries''' to anime. (Quite a few anime could use more category entries, an achievement would be another incentive. I am not sure, if anyone can add category entries and needs no OK by an admin, if so, this might get ugly. Otherwise OK'ed category entries could be a relevant statistic.) | |||
** For adding an '''anime description'''. (Maybe restrict it to actually writing one. Not sure how much bother it is to parse "- written by XYZ" is.) | |||
** There are probably many more "contribution achievements", just mentioned those I normally look into. --[[User:Foo2|foo2]] | |||
*** The tag/category suggestions are bad for now. We're working on the new tag system and it would be pointless. Furthermore, anything that passes through adding without mod control is bound to be abused and to create more issues. As for adding anime descriptions, considering I've written many descriptions for lots of stuff (anime, tags, chars, and so on) and never added "written by Hinoe" to my description, I'd say it's nearly impossible. That's more akin to something a mod might manually award to users who do that often. In addition, I think "fixing content" is covered by the creq award to some extent, and it's really hard to make a system figure out what's a minor description fix and what's a major overhaul or a complete rewrite. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST) | |||
**** With the new tag system, I think the tag/category stuff can be axed. Adding a description would need to be done manually, not prone to happening, and can't be based on written by xyz. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 10:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
*** Tag/category stuff denied for the reasons above. Descriptions stuff is bound to be impossible to implement; it would clearly require lots of work to be done for ''each user'', so I'm going to assume what seems obvious here and also file it as denied. So all denied except assigning tags, which is already implemented. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 02:20, 29 January 2018 (UCT) | |||