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* Number of anime watched before the birthdate of the user and number of anime watched from the childhood of the user (4-16 years since birthdate) --unknown author(s)
* Number of anime watched before the birthdate of the user and number of anime watched from the childhood of the user (4-16 years since birthdate) --unknown author(s)
** I frankly think those are rather bad ideas, as these achievements are inherently biased (yearly production varies; a 30 year old user and a 16 year old one will have wildly different amounts to watch...). In addition, privacy-concerned users will have one less badge to show off, as many avoid putting their birth date. You won't find mine on AniDB. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
** I frankly think those are rather bad ideas, as these achievements are inherently biased (yearly production varies; a 30 year old user and a 16 year old one will have wildly different amounts to watch...). In addition, privacy-concerned users will have one less badge to show off, as many avoid putting their birth date. You won't find mine on AniDB. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
* Adding lexicon articles and converted credits --unknown author(s)
** Though [[User:Der Idiot|Der Idiot]] is trying to work on some new better version of categories/tags/lexicon; may thus be redundant at some point in time? --[[User:Shitenshi|Shitenshi]]
*** In that case, we might put this idea on hold until the idea of how a new system would be takes shape. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
*** Ok, I was thinking about this, and I ''really'' think the way Lexicon works now is mostly ok. While yes, the cat/tag/ctag/crtag system needs to change, I think Lexicon itself is ok. Lexicon entries are quite well-moderated (requiring add creqs and stuff), they need the user to actually work (while not requiring them to know japanese or any such difficulties related to adding creators, adding anime, etc; just some common sense and a brain should generally suffice), and, most importantly, they help create higher quality tags by promoting integration, etc, not to mention the pic. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
** Lexicon has been dead for a year now thanks to the current tag system, so... let's axe this? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 10:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC)




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** I don't know about interesting, but I think it'd be a pain to implement and even to decide on parameters on. I see possible technical difficulties. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
** I don't know about interesting, but I think it'd be a pain to implement and even to decide on parameters on. I see possible technical difficulties. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
*** Interesting from the point that it would encourage more people to watch much older shows and see the evolution of Japanese animation through the years. As for the technical difficulties, I can definitely respect that, not only for the implementation, but for the computational load of the server as well. Some suggestions in case you bother with it: 1) The calculation should be a percentage of the total number of production years. There are currently 92 different production years. This number changes only once per year (It is very difficult for new entries from the missing years of the '20's, '40's and 50's to be added, if there are any) . So, there is no need to make the system calculate it every single time. It's a number you can set manually in the code and change it once per year. The calculation of the number of production years for every user has already been implemented in "My Reports". (But,I'm certain these are things you have already thought of. Maybe there are some more complicated issues. After all, I have done very little programming in my life to be of any more help). 2) The percentages should be kept the same e.x. I have seen from 76 different years so I would be a Level 7. 3) I don't think a special constraint would be a good idea (e.x. having seen at least 5 anime from that year) as it would be unfair (there is only one entry for some years) --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
*** Interesting from the point that it would encourage more people to watch much older shows and see the evolution of Japanese animation through the years. As for the technical difficulties, I can definitely respect that, not only for the implementation, but for the computational load of the server as well. Some suggestions in case you bother with it: 1) The calculation should be a percentage of the total number of production years. There are currently 92 different production years. This number changes only once per year (It is very difficult for new entries from the missing years of the '20's, '40's and 50's to be added, if there are any) . So, there is no need to make the system calculate it every single time. It's a number you can set manually in the code and change it once per year. The calculation of the number of production years for every user has already been implemented in "My Reports". (But,I'm certain these are things you have already thought of. Maybe there are some more complicated issues. After all, I have done very little programming in my life to be of any more help). 2) The percentages should be kept the same e.x. I have seen from 76 different years so I would be a Level 7. 3) I don't think a special constraint would be a good idea (e.x. having seen at least 5 anime from that year) as it would be unfair (there is only one entry for some years) --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
* It would be nice if those that actually contribute to the AniDB by adding new content or fixing present content got a few more Achievements:
** Creation of a '''new Anime Tag''' *with* description. (Since tag creation is linked to the user this should be possible to check, double-checking for a description might be problematic though. Especially, if checked now... i.e. I would have added descriptions for all those too lazy to do so. Not sure how to resolve this.)
** '''Add'''ing of '''anime tags''' to anime. (I find that there are many anime that could be tagged, but no one seems to bother doing so, so an achievement based incentive might be nice. Alas this could be abused. Maybe look up added tags that got at least 2-3 votes, thus had someone agree to them. Obviously, "agreed on" does not make "wrong" tags any more relevant, but...)
** For assigning '''Category entries''' to anime. (Quite a few anime could use more category entries, an achievement would be another incentive. I am not sure, if anyone can add category entries and needs no OK by an admin, if so, this might get ugly. Otherwise OK'ed category entries could be a relevant statistic.)
** For adding an '''anime description'''. (Maybe restrict it to actually writing one. Not sure how much bother it is to parse "- written by XYZ" is.)
** There are probably many more "contribution achievements", just mentioned those I normally look into. --[[User:Foo2|foo2]]
*** The tag/category suggestions are bad for now. We're working on the new tag system and it would be pointless. Furthermore, anything that passes through adding without mod control is bound to be abused and to create more issues. As for adding anime descriptions, considering I've written many descriptions for lots of stuff (anime, tags, chars, and so on) and never added "written by Hinoe" to my description, I'd say it's nearly impossible. That's more akin to something a mod might manually award to users who do that often. In addition, I think "fixing content" is covered by the creq award to some extent, and it's really hard to make a system figure out what's a minor description fix and what's a major overhaul or a complete rewrite. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
**** With the new tag system, I think the tag/category stuff can be axed. Adding a description would need to be done manually, not prone to happening, and can't be based on written by xyz. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 10:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC)




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* Just to revisit the "achievements can't be assigned to tags" issue (in the other section) since it's been almost a year since it was last mentioned: I'm pretty sure nothing has changed on that front, especially with the new tag system rather around the corner, but can we have that as a high priority feature, achievements-wise? It doesn't need to be implemented ASAP or anything, but it's really high on my wishlist for the achievements system, so next time someone is going to implement a random feature can we have this at least considered? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* Just to revisit the "achievements can't be assigned to tags" issue (in the other section) since it's been almost a year since it was last mentioned: I'm pretty sure nothing has changed on that front, especially with the new tag system rather around the corner, but can we have that as a high priority feature, achievements-wise? It doesn't need to be implemented ASAP or anything, but it's really high on my wishlist for the achievements system, so next time someone is going to implement a random feature can we have this at least considered? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** Moved the suggestion, copyedited for clarity. I talked to [[User:Ommina|ommina]] and he says it MAY happen. No promises were given but he says it's doable. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
** Moved the suggestion, copyedited for clarity. I talked to [[User:Ommina|ommina]] and he says it MAY happen. No promises were given but he says it's doable. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
= New Anime/Creator Achievements suggestions =




* I have noticed that some anime series don't have 'Anime Achievements'. So I wanted to know why anime series such as Bleach, Fairy Tail, Cat's Eye, You're Under Arrest!, Cobra(Space Cobra, Cobra The animation etc..) don't have 'Anime Achievements'. I think these animes deserve to have their own badges.--[[User:Ken81|Ken81]] ([[User talk:Ken81|talk]]) 02:01, 16 August 2016 (UCT)
* I have noticed that some anime series don't have 'Anime Achievements'. So I wanted to know why anime series such as Bleach, Fairy Tail, Cat's Eye, You're Under Arrest!, Cobra(Space Cobra, Cobra The animation etc..) don't have 'Anime Achievements'. I think these animes deserve to have their own badges.--[[User:Ken81|Ken81]] ([[User talk:Ken81|talk]]) 02:01, 16 August 2016 (UCT)
** Unless the achievement has been denied (see near the end of the page for denied suggestions), many have already been suggested; if they haven't, you can suggest them yourself. They may also be included in a creator achievement (e.g. YUA is more likely to be covered by an eventual Fujishima Kousuke creator badge). --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:16, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
** Unless the achievement has been denied (see near the end of the page for denied suggestions), many have already been suggested; if they haven't, you can suggest them yourself. They may also be included in a creator achievement (e.g. YUA is more likely to be covered by an eventual Fujishima Kousuke creator badge). --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:16, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
= New Anime/Creator Achievements suggestions =


== Anime ==
== Anime ==


* How about the [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=5787 Natsume Yuujinchou] series? --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
* How about the [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=5787 Natsume Yuujinchou] series? --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
** I just separated this from the noitaminA badge suggestion above. Kind of borderline. Might be worth looking into, especially if it grows. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** I just separated this from the noitaminA badge suggestion above. Kind of borderline. Might be worth looking into, especially if it grows. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=Natsume+Yujincho&do.search=search Natsume Yujinchou] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=Natsume+Yujincho&do.search=search Natsume Yujinchou] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** Dupe. Moving. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
*** Dupe. Moving. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




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* I'd like to see an achievement for the Toaru/Raildex series! -- [[User:CDB-Man|CDB-Man]] ([[User talk:CDB-Man|talk]]) 09:04, 8 October 2013 (CEST)
* I'd like to see an achievement for the Toaru/Raildex series! -- [[User:CDB-Man|CDB-Man]] ([[User talk:CDB-Man|talk]]) 09:04, 8 October 2013 (CEST)
** Borderline in terms of [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=5975 size], but it's highly popular, so it qualifies. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** <s>Borderline in terms of [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=5975 size], but it's highly popular, so it qualifies. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)</s> With Index III, Accelerator, and Railgun T, it's become hard to argue that it's not large enough, so this statement as it was is no longer even applicable. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:49, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
*** Much larger than one of your suggestions below. 100 eps if treated together. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)
*** Much larger than one of your suggestions below. 100 eps if treated together. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)
**** Fair enough. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 07:40, 10 May 2015 (CEST)
**** Fair enough. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 07:40, 10 May 2015 (CEST)
** There is [https://anidb.net/anime/10864 Heavy Object], 2015-2016 anime also based on a work by Kamachi Kazuma, so we may potentially be looking at a creator badge here instead. I don't really have a preference and the Heavy Object anime has never struck me as particularly interesting, but it should be noted that it does exist. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 02:02, 5 June 2020 (UTC)




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** I agree with its relevance. Also, at 90 episodes plus whatever happens in the new series without an ep count yet, I wouldn't consider it borderline anymore. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:16, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
** I agree with its relevance. Also, at 90 episodes plus whatever happens in the new series without an ep count yet, I wouldn't consider it borderline anymore. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:16, 29 January 2018 (UCT)


* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=6327 Bakemonogatari]. Needless to say it is one of the most iconic and relevant, multi-seasonal anime of the 2010's. --[[User:Pyunyun|Pyunyun]]
** The NisiOisiN suggestion in the creator badges section would include the entirety of this already, so there is probably no point in a separate (anything)monogatari badge. [[User:Soulweaver|Soulweaver]] ([[User talk:Soulweaver|talk]]) 13:52, 29 July 2019 (UTC)


== Writers, mangaka, etc ==
== Writers, mangaka, etc ==


* I would like to see a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=1204 Kikuchi Hideyuki] achievement. I am aware the amount of titles based on his works isn't that grand, however everything is in high budget OVA/movie format and he's a well-known author (with the western audience too). Even now, quite a few of his stuff are at least moderately popular (mainly the Vampire Hunter D movies, which are considered classics of the genre). --[[User:Gorgils|Gorgils]]
* I would like to see a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=1204 Kikuchi Hideyuki] achievement. I am aware the amount of titles based on his works isn't that grand, however everything is in high budget OVA/movie format and he's a well-known author (with the western audience too). Even now, quite a few of his stuff are at least moderately popular (mainly the Vampire Hunter D movies, which are considered classics of the genre). --[[User:Gorgils|Gorgils]]
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== Directors ==
== Directors ==


* I think there should be a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=54 Kon Satoshi] Creator Badge! He's got the highly reputable body of work for it. --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
* I think there should be a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=54 Kon Satoshi] Creator Badge! He's got the highly reputable body of work for it. --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
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* I'm... not quite sure how this hasn't been suggested before, but I'd like to see an achievement for SHAFT shows under Shinbou's style. I took the liberty of checking the entire list of shows that credit Shinbou as either director or chief director, and the list of shows with Animation Work credits for SHAFT, and of crossing them over to see the results. It appears to me that the shows they create are only memorable in any manner (good or bad, depending on your taste) when SHAFT is doing what Shinbou wants, and when Shinbou can make SHAFT do what he wants. The rest is like Evangelion without Anno Hideaki; it might be good, but it's radically different. As such, I'd like a badge for shows that fulfill both: 1) Animation Work credits for SHAFT; and 2) either Direction or Chief Direction credits for Shinbou. Opinions on this (rather unusual, I know) suggestion? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 24 February 2013 (CET)
* [https://anidb.net/cr59 Shinbou]. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:53, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
** Not doable at the moment. Well, it would be doable but someone would have to create that list manually. And keep it updated. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:33, 28 February 2013 (CET)
** This is a replacement dated 2015 for a suggestion from 2013 concerning Shinbou and SHAFT. The old debate is no longer relevant here. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:53, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
*** Moved the rest of this discussion to a more fitting section, namely that of the denied ideas since that's what a talk on IRC made clear. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
*** '''TOTALLY UNRELATED''' to the creator math idea but still on Shinbou and SHAFT: is it currently possible to limit an achievement by date? If not, I'll just file it as a feature request. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
*** See my comments below on Gainax. Either go with just a SHAFT or just a Shinbou badge. There's no point in excluding some old stuff because you don't want to watch What's Michael or Metal Fighter Miku for your achievement. Also keep in mind that SHAFT has done some good shows without Shinbou (and vice versa) and that they have also put out garbage together. If you're a completionist, you have to suffer anyway. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)
**** Some time ago, I have no idea when, I mentioned, probably on IRC, that I wanted to convert that idea into a Shinbou badge (SHAFT badge or no SHAFT badge being not a concern of mine at that point, or indeed at this point). So yeah, I think that works. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 07:40, 10 May 2015 (CEST)




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== Studios ==
== Studios ==


* Perhaps also Production I.G. and Madhouse, in addition to the existing Studio 4C. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
* Perhaps also Production I.G. and Madhouse, in addition to the existing Studio 4C. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
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== Seiyuu ==
== Seiyuu ==


* Let's not forget a [http://anidb.net/cr2 Wakamoto] badge. --Chroniko on IRC
* Let's not forget a [http://anidb.net/cr2 Wakamoto] badge. --Chroniko on IRC
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== Musicians ==
== Musicians ==


* I'm not sure if that qualifies but I think [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=241 Kanno Youko] would make a great badge on the creators achievement side. She's a genuinely iconic creator and made tons of great tracks for lots of popular series (which, I admit, include overlaps (Gundam, Macross) and not-so-great series (Macross F, Zankyou no Terror)) in a career spanning over twenty years. I don't know if a music achievement makes sense here but I believe it's worth considering --[[User:Pegase|Pegase]] 04:04, 18 February 2017 (CET)
* I'm not sure if that qualifies but I think [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=241 Kanno Youko] would make a great badge on the creators achievement side. She's a genuinely iconic creator and made tons of great tracks for lots of popular series (which, I admit, include overlaps (Gundam, Macross) and not-so-great series (Macross F, Zankyou no Terror)) in a career spanning over twenty years. I don't know if a music achievement makes sense here but I believe it's worth considering --[[User:Pegase|Pegase]] 04:04, 18 February 2017 (CET)
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== Tags ==
== Tags ==


* Would a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=lexicon&lexiconid=76 noitaminA] Badge be out of place? --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
 
** I'm in support of a Noitamina badge. [[User:Soulweaver|Soulweaver]] 14:48, 23 April 2012 (CEST)
* Please note that tag-based badges are '''currently not addable'''. This is a wishlist item for someday/never. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 02:14, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
** I don't know what to file this under, tbh. I'm leaving it under anime/creator for now. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:16, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
** Of note, see worf's statement below. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 02:14, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
*** There is currently no way to award watching anime that have a certain tag. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET)
*** There is currently no way to award watching anime that have a certain tag. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET)
**** There might be one in the future, see the other section. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
**** There might be one in the future, see the other section. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)




* Not particularly interested in noitaminA, but I'd like a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=lexicon&vtype=tag&relid=6905 Young Animator Training Project] badge. Because it's really cool stuff. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 03:48, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
* Would a [https://anidb.net/t3865 noitaminA] Badge be out of place? --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
** Context: my suggestion was originally said in response to the noitaminA suggestion above. [[User:Worf|Worf]]'s response below is a copy of the one he gave there, just for good measure. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** I'm in support of a Noitamina badge. [[User:Soulweaver|Soulweaver]] 14:48, 23 April 2012 (CEST)
** There is currently no way to award watching anime that have a certain tag. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET).
*** Revising my previous instance of not caring much to also agree with this one. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 02:14, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
*** There might be one in the future, see the other section. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
 
 
* I'd like a [https://anidb.net/t4859 Young Animator Training Project] badge. Because it's really cool stuff. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 03:48, 13 October 2012 (CEST)




* [http://anidb.net/tag111 World Masterpiece Theater] series anime watched --unknown author
* [https://anidb.net/t3763 World Masterpiece Theater] series anime watched --unknown author
** I like this one a lot. They're not linked closely like other creator/show badges, but it makes sense because the brand name has its own touch and is generally based off classic literature. Culture never hurts. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
** I like this one a lot. They're not linked closely like other creator/show badges, but it makes sense because the brand name has its own touch and is generally based off classic literature. Culture never hurts. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
** I agree! Not to mention (most of them) are really good! --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
** I agree! Not to mention (most of them) are really good! --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
*** There is currently no way to award watching anime that have a certain tag. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET)
**** There might be one in the future, see the other section. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)


= Anime Classics and/or Genre Packs =
= Anime Classics and/or Genre Packs =
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** I think they were denied on account of being shitty. Don't quote me on it, though. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:09, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
** I think they were denied on account of being shitty. Don't quote me on it, though. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:09, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
*** Denied (again) by [[User:Worf|Worf]] on 24 February 2013. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 08:17, 1 February 2014 (CET)
*** Denied (again) by [[User:Worf|Worf]] on 24 February 2013. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 08:17, 1 February 2014 (CET)
* About Naruto, I can understand why, but at the same time I think anyone who has been watching Naruto since 2002 (like me) deserves a statue, or at least an achievement. Even if you don't want to give one, make it part of a bigger achievement. I was thinking about a "fill me up," "I survived boredom," I'm talking about negative achievements. In this case certain anime with terrible fillers ( like DBZ snake way) those stack up for an achievement. Giving an achievement for watching fillers, give something for suffering.--Ikus 13:15, 28 November 2013 (CET)
** About Naruto, I can understand why, but at the same time I think anyone who has been watching Naruto since 2002 (like me) deserves a statue, or at least an achievement. Even if you don't want to give one, make it part of a bigger achievement. I was thinking about a "fill me up," "I survived boredom," I'm talking about negative achievements. In this case certain anime with terrible fillers ( like DBZ snake way) those stack up for an achievement. Giving an achievement for watching fillers, give something for suffering.--Ikus 13:15, 28 November 2013 (CET)
** If you've been watching Naruto since 2002 and think you deserve a status for that, I think you deserve to be shot, but maybe that's just me. Anyway, I'm not sure there's a great point in that kind of "achievement", but I guess to each their own. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
*** If you've been watching Naruto since 2002 and think you deserve a status for that, I think you deserve to be shot, but maybe that's just me. Anyway, I'm not sure there's a great point in that kind of "achievement", but I guess to each their own. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
*** Although this has already been shot down in the past, Naruto (or also Bleach) being a terrible show is not much of an argument when we have achievements for Beyblade and Yu-Gi-Oh! But if there's no hope for it anyway, just move this down to the rest. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)
**** Although this has already been shot down in the past, Naruto (or also Bleach) being a terrible show is not much of an argument when we have achievements for Beyblade and Yu-Gi-Oh! But if there's no hope for it anyway, just move this down to the rest. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)
***  Also Prince of Tennis, Precure, Pokemon, One Piece, Dragon Ball (a lot of old episodes are shitty as hell, like Naruto but yeah, ok). I watched only a 100 eps and have only 2 favorites for their directing (Wakabayashi ones). Also, there is a large community who are watching Naruto only for its animation (sakuga) fights, since the story is dumb. Same thing for Bleach, Toriko and a lot of shitty Shonen Jump animes.[[User:Excelsi0r|Excelsi0r]] ([[User talk:Excelsi0r|talk]]) 10:14, 20 September 2015
****  Also Prince of Tennis, Precure, Pokemon, One Piece, Dragon Ball (a lot of old episodes are shitty as hell, like Naruto but yeah, ok). I watched only a 100 eps and have only 2 favorites for their directing (Wakabayashi ones). Also, there is a large community who are watching Naruto only for its animation (sakuga) fights, since the story is dumb. Same thing for Bleach, Toriko and a lot of shitty Shonen Jump animes.[[User:Excelsi0r|Excelsi0r]] ([[User talk:Excelsi0r|talk]]) 10:14, 20 September 2015




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* This references a talk in another section, CTRL+F for Shinbou or SHAFT for more info. Moved here because it's a dead feature request. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
* I'm... not quite sure how this hasn't been suggested before, but I'd like to see an achievement for SHAFT shows under Shinbou's style. I took the liberty of checking the entire list of shows that credit Shinbou as either director or chief director, and the list of shows with Animation Work credits for SHAFT, and of crossing them over to see the results. It appears to me that the shows they create are only memorable in any manner (good or bad, depending on your taste) when SHAFT is doing what Shinbou wants, and when Shinbou can make SHAFT do what he wants. The rest is like Evangelion without Anno Hideaki; it might be good, but it's radically different. As such, I'd like a badge for shows that fulfill both: 1) Animation Work credits for SHAFT; and 2) either Direction or Chief Direction credits for Shinbou. Opinions on this (rather unusual, I know) suggestion? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 24 February 2013 (CET)
** TL;DR a list that took two creators into account or did any sort of creator math would have to be manually created. [[User:Ommina|ommina]] says it's not going to happen as an automatic feature without much work. Manually updating such a list is '''highly''' problematic because it requires a pretty high access level (file-based, no admin frontend to the system, one not happening this century despite my arguments in support of one) so it's not gonna happen either. Just below is an older talk to between worf and myself which is stored for reference purposes only since it's pretty useless by now. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
** Not doable at the moment. Well, it would be doable but someone would have to create that list manually. And keep it updated. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:33, 28 February 2013 (CET)
*** You mean like <strike>this</strike>? :) --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 05:30, 28 February 2013 (CET) (Note: previously linked to a page to be nuked; page contains a few manually crafted (and now useless) lists of anime.)
*** You mean like <strike>this</strike>? :) --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 05:30, 28 February 2013 (CET) (Note: previously linked to a page to be nuked; page contains a few manually crafted (and now useless) lists of anime.)
**** Yeah, except your list isn't very useful. And keeping it up2date and feeding it to the achievement system automatically is also not going to work. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 22:56, 28 February 2013 (CET)
**** Yeah, except your list isn't very useful. And keeping it up2date and feeding it to the achievement system automatically is also not going to work. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 22:56, 28 February 2013 (CET)
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******* Yeah, there's a problem with that kicking people into work thing. I'm afraid I can't really help there. Can we have that sort of feature into a wishlist, if nothing else? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
******* Yeah, there's a problem with that kicking people into work thing. I'm afraid I can't really help there. Can we have that sort of feature into a wishlist, if nothing else? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
******** Just because people only check the last reply, I'll say again: feature not going to happen, use just one of the creators for now, or whatever really. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
******** Just because people only check the last reply, I'll say again: feature not going to happen, use just one of the creators for now, or whatever really. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
*** '''TOTALLY UNRELATED''' to the creator math idea but still on Shinbou and SHAFT: is it currently possible to limit an achievement by date? If not, I'll just file it as a feature request. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
*** See my comments below on Gainax. Either go with just a SHAFT or just a Shinbou badge. There's no point in excluding some old stuff because you don't want to watch What's Michael or Metal Fighter Miku for your achievement. Also keep in mind that SHAFT has done some good shows without Shinbou (and vice versa) and that they have also put out garbage together. If you're a completionist, you have to suffer anyway. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)
**** Some time ago, I have no idea when, I mentioned, probably on IRC, that I wanted to convert that idea into a Shinbou badge (SHAFT badge or no SHAFT badge being not a concern of mine at that point, or indeed at this point). So yeah, I think that works. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 07:40, 10 May 2015 (CEST)
***** Moved to denied, replaced by a suggestion for a Shinbou badge. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:53, 29 January 2018 (UCT)




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** Not gonna happen. Statwhoring by adding useless/crappy/incomplete entries is too likely. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 17:41, 16 January 2012 (CET)
** Not gonna happen. Statwhoring by adding useless/crappy/incomplete entries is too likely. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 17:41, 16 January 2012 (CET)
*** Copied from the old article just now because I decided that since we're going to have a section listing denied ideas we might as well keep it as complete as possible. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 20:13, 6 March 2014 (CET)
*** Copied from the old article just now because I decided that since we're going to have a section listing denied ideas we might as well keep it as complete as possible. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 20:13, 6 March 2014 (CET)
* Adding lexicon articles and converted credits --unknown author(s)
** Though [[User:Der Idiot|Der Idiot]] is trying to work on some new better version of categories/tags/lexicon; may thus be redundant at some point in time? --[[User:Shitenshi|Shitenshi]]
*** In that case, we might put this idea on hold until the idea of how a new system would be takes shape. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
*** Ok, I was thinking about this, and I ''really'' think the way Lexicon works now is mostly ok. While yes, the cat/tag/ctag/crtag system needs to change, I think Lexicon itself is ok. Lexicon entries are quite well-moderated (requiring add creqs and stuff), they need the user to actually work (while not requiring them to know japanese or any such difficulties related to adding creators, adding anime, etc; just some common sense and a brain should generally suffice), and, most importantly, they help create higher quality tags by promoting integration, etc, not to mention the pic. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
** Lexicon has been dead for a year now thanks to the current tag system, so... let's axe this? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 10:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
** Lexicon is dead and buried, and it's also not gonna happen for the new tag system. I have enough stupid tags to handle without more being added for the sake of a badge. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:58, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
* It would be nice if those that actually contribute to the AniDB by adding new content or fixing present content got a few more Achievements:
** Creation of a '''new Anime Tag''' *with* description. (Since tag creation is linked to the user this should be possible to check, double-checking for a description might be problematic though. Especially, if checked now... i.e. I would have added descriptions for all those too lazy to do so. Not sure how to resolve this.)
** '''Add'''ing of '''anime tags''' to anime. (I find that there are many anime that could be tagged, but no one seems to bother doing so, so an achievement based incentive might be nice. Alas this could be abused. Maybe look up added tags that got at least 2-3 votes, thus had someone agree to them. Obviously, "agreed on" does not make "wrong" tags any more relevant, but...)
** For assigning '''Category entries''' to anime. (Quite a few anime could use more category entries, an achievement would be another incentive. I am not sure, if anyone can add category entries and needs no OK by an admin, if so, this might get ugly. Otherwise OK'ed category entries could be a relevant statistic.)
** For adding an '''anime description'''. (Maybe restrict it to actually writing one. Not sure how much bother it is to parse "- written by XYZ" is.)
** There are probably many more "contribution achievements", just mentioned those I normally look into. --[[User:Foo2|foo2]]
*** The tag/category suggestions are bad for now. We're working on the new tag system and it would be pointless. Furthermore, anything that passes through adding without mod control is bound to be abused and to create more issues. As for adding anime descriptions, considering I've written many descriptions for lots of stuff (anime, tags, chars, and so on) and never added "written by Hinoe" to my description, I'd say it's nearly impossible. That's more akin to something a mod might manually award to users who do that often. In addition, I think "fixing content" is covered by the creq award to some extent, and it's really hard to make a system figure out what's a minor description fix and what's a major overhaul or a complete rewrite. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
**** With the new tag system, I think the tag/category stuff can be axed. Adding a description would need to be done manually, not prone to happening, and can't be based on written by xyz. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 10:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
*** Tag/category stuff denied for the reasons above. Descriptions stuff is bound to be impossible to implement; it would clearly require lots of work to be done for ''each user'', so I'm going to assume what seems obvious here and also file it as denied. So all denied except assigning tags, which is already implemented. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 02:20, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
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