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=Concerns and Goals= | =Concerns and Goals= | ||
As the [[ | As the [[CharDB DEV|CharDB]], [[OstDB DEV|OstDB]], [[MangaDB DEV|MangaDB]] and AniDB's producers all tend to include data about individuals or companies it would be a good idea to extract the generic data for individuals and companies into two separate tables which are then used by all other parts. | ||
* I.e. instead of having all the data inside the producer table, it would only include those data fields which are producer specific and would refer to a person or company table for the general data. | |||
* The question is, which fields can be considered generic (and should thus be listed in the person/company table) and which fields are specific. | |||
* And also which relations should be possible between entries. | |||
** person<=>company relations? (works/ed for?) | |||
** company<=>company relations? | |||
** person<=>person relations? (married?) | |||
And | * <s>And multiplicities, i.e. has each producer only one person/company related to it, or multiple ones?</s> - ''Each producer has only one entity assigned to it. Although one of those entities is Collaboration which can hold multiple companies and/or persons.'' | ||
<s> | * <s>Also, should names be a separate table (like anime titles) or are there only a small number of names we'd want to store per person/company?</s> - ''Names have their own table for every Entity that has titles.'' | ||
* Is mangaka sufficiently different from producers? Or should mangaka simply be stored/handled like producers? | |||
* The concept of pseudonyms is still very unclear, what is the multiplicity? And are they also related to producers? Or persons? | |||
* Also how are matching pseudonyms (they're not unique, are they?) handled? | |||
* Looking at [[Generic PersonCompany DEV#Producer|Producer]], [[Generic PersonCompany DEV#Artist|Artist]], [[Generic PersonCompany DEV#Mangaka|Mangaka]] and [[Generic PersonCompany DEV#Seiyuu|Seiyuu]] we see that they are very similar the only thing changing are the names of the generic fields (like start date), so a question is should we either: | |||
*# have multiple modules for each specialization or should we keep it only under one module and differentiate with something like show=addentity&type=person[&edit=1] | |||
*# keep using the current way that is xvcl everything and make several modules for each specialization? | |||
=The big picture= | =Suggestion 1= | ||
==The big picture== | |||
[[Image:People1.png]] | [[Image:People1.png]] | ||
''''' | {{eyecatch|Warning|Image does '''not''' reflect the current layout!}} | ||
* To Fix: | * To Fix: | ||
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** Decide if we actually need the Pseudonym table | ** Decide if we actually need the Pseudonym table | ||
=Data Fields= | ==Data Fields== | ||
==Generic Fields== | ===Generic Fields=== | ||
===Generic Fields - Person=== | ====Generic Fields - Person==== | ||
* image | * image | ||
* url (en) | * url (en) | ||
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* verified | * verified | ||
===Generic Fields - Company=== | ====Generic Fields - Company==== | ||
* image | * image | ||
* type - type of company | * type - type of company | ||
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* verified | * verified | ||
===Generic Fields - Collaboration=== | ====Generic Fields - Collaboration==== | ||
* type - collaboration type | * type - collaboration type | ||
** 1 - | ** 1 - Joint work | ||
** 2 - .. ? | ** 2 - Band | ||
** 3 - ... ? | |||
* url (en) | * url (en) | ||
* url (jp) | * url (jp) | ||
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====Generic Fields - CollaborationEntities==== | ====Generic Fields - CollaborationEntities==== | ||
* | * relcolid - Id of the Collaboration | ||
* reltb - type of entity | |||
** 1 - company | ** 1 - company | ||
** 2 - person | ** 2 - person | ||
* relid - entity id | * relid - entity id | ||
==Specializations== | ====Generic Fields - CollaborationTitle==== | ||
===Producer=== | * name - name of the Collaboration | ||
* lang - language of Collaboration | |||
* type - type of Collaboration | |||
** 1 - Main title | |||
** 2 - Synonyms/Alias | |||
** 3 - Short | |||
* verified | |||
===Specializations=== | |||
====Producer==== | |||
* relid - entity id | * relid - entity id | ||
* typeid - type of entity | * typeid - type of entity | ||
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* end date - if different from underlying entity | * end date - if different from underlying entity | ||
* description - producer specific information | * description - producer specific information | ||
* [ratings&co] - not implemented in the UI | |||
====Seiyuu==== | |||
<tt>derived from [[Generic PersonCompany DEV#Artist|Artist]]/[[OstDB DEV|OstDB]]</tt> | |||
* relid - entity id | |||
* typeid - type of entity | |||
** 2 - person | |||
* titleid - titles used by the entity | |||
* debut on - Start of career | |||
* retired on - End of career | |||
* description - Some seiyuu specific info | |||
* [ratings&co] - not implemented in the ui | * [ratings&co] - not implemented in the ui | ||
=== | ====Artist==== | ||
<tt>derived from [[OstDB DEV|OstDB]]</tt> | |||
<tt> | |||
* relid - entity id | * relid - entity id | ||
* typeid - type of entity | * typeid - type of entity | ||
** | ** 2 - person | ||
** | ** 3 - collaboration (allows to make bands) | ||
* titleid - titles used by the entity | * titleid - titles used by the entity | ||
* debut on - Start of career | * debut on - Start of career | ||
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* [ratings&co] - not implemented in the ui | * [ratings&co] - not implemented in the ui | ||
===Mangaka=== | ====Mangaka==== | ||
<tt>derived from [[Artist]]/[[ | <tt>derived from [[Generic PersonCompany DEV#Artist|Artist]]/[[OstDB DEV|OstDB]]</tt> | ||
* relid - entity id | * relid - entity id | ||
* typeid - type of entity | * typeid - type of entity | ||
** | ** 2 - person | ||
** | ** 3 - collaboration (allows us to have several persons working under the same penname) | ||
* titleid - titles used by the entity | * titleid - titles used by the entity | ||
* debut on - Start of career | * debut on - Start of career | ||
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* [ratings&co] - not implemented in the ui | * [ratings&co] - not implemented in the ui | ||
= | ==further notes== | ||
== | |||
===Person=== | ===Person=== | ||
* Persons '''need''' one ''main title'', made from [title] firstname lastname (lang defaults to transcription) | * Persons '''need''' one ''main title'', made from [title] firstname lastname (lang defaults to transcription) | ||
* Persons can have '''one''' ''maiden name'', made from [title] firstname lastname (lang defaults to transcription) | * Persons can have '''one''' ''maiden name'', made from [title] firstname lastname (lang defaults to transcription) | ||
* Persons can have '''multiple''' ''alias'', made from [title] firstname lastname (lang defaults to transcription) | * Persons can have '''multiple''' ''alias'', made from [title] firstname lastname (lang defaults to transcription) | ||
* Persons can have '''multiple''' '' | * Persons can have '''multiple''' ''nicknames'', made from lastname (lang defaults to transcription) | ||
* One can choose '''optional''' relations between persons and/or companies (not implemented in the UI). | |||
===Company=== | ===Company=== | ||
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* Companies can have '''multiple''' ''synonyms'' (lang defaults to transcription) | * Companies can have '''multiple''' ''synonyms'' (lang defaults to transcription) | ||
* Companies can have '''multiple''' ''short names'' (lang defaults to transcription) | * Companies can have '''multiple''' ''short names'' (lang defaults to transcription) | ||
* One can choose '''optional''' relations between persons and/or companies (not implemented in the UI). | |||
===Collaboration=== | ===Collaboration=== | ||
<tt>Still very unspecified</tt> | <tt>Still very unspecified</tt> | ||
* Collaborations '''need''' a type (unspecified at the moment) | * Collaborations '''need''' a type (unspecified at the moment, see [[Generic PersonCompany DEV#Generic Fields - Collaboration|Collaboration]]) | ||
* Collaborations aren't limited to either companies or persons but can be a mix of both (unspecified at the moment) | * Collaborations aren't limited to either companies or persons but can be a mix of both (unspecified at the moment). | ||
===Producer=== | ===Producer=== | ||
* One can make a | * One can make a Producer either from a Person, a Company entry or a Collaboration entry. | ||
* One chooses from the related entry which names should the producer be known as. | * One chooses from the related entry which names should the producer be known as. | ||
===Seiyuu=== | ===Seiyuu=== | ||
<tt>still very unspecified at the moment</tt> | |||
* One can make a Seiyuu from a Person. | |||
* One chooses from the related entry which names should the Seiyuu be known as. | |||
===Mangaka=== | ===Mangaka=== | ||
<tt>still very unspecified at the moment</tt> | |||
* One can make a Mangaka either from a Person or a Collaboration entry. | |||
* One chooses from the related entry which names should the Mangaka be known as. | |||
===Artist=== | ===Artist=== | ||
<tt>still very unspecified at the moment</tt> | |||
* One can make a Artist either from a Person or a Collaboration entry. | |||
* One chooses from the related entry which names should the Artist be known as. | |||
=Suggestion 2= | |||
==creatortb== | |||
* image | |||
* url (en) | |||
* url (jp) | |||
* url wiki (en) | |||
* url wiki (jp) | |||
* birth date | |||
* death date | |||
* description | |||
* role[] - relevant for in which system the entity will be shown/used (filter) | |||
** Mangaka | |||
** Artist | |||
** Anime Producer | |||
** Seiyuu | |||
* type | |||
**Person | |||
**Company | |||
* parentid | |||
**analogue to the guise system for character we use this here as well | |||
** let's say person A works under pseudonym B as a mangaka. then we add both persons and set the parentid for the child (the pseudonym) | |||
** that way we can credit the correct person while still being able to display both data entries under 1 entity | |||
==creatornametb== | |||
* name | |||
* lang - language of title | |||
* type - type of title | |||
** 1 - Main title | |||
** 2 - Alias | |||
** 3 - Maiden name | |||
** 4 - Nickname | |||
* verified | |||
==creatorcreatorreltb== | |||
-- used for "silly" relations like "marriage", collaborations, etc. | |||
* prelid | |||
**married | |||
**works for | |||
**works with | |||
**... | |||
* producerid | |||
* next | |||
==creatorrelationtb== | |||
--defines the relation types | |||
*name | |||
*restriction | |||
**relations should be filtered down by type | |||
**personlevel relations make not much sense for companies and vice versa | |||
** see character system which works that way | |||
*description | |||
==creatortagtb== | |||
* tag system like used for character to add further non numerical data | |||
=Top Level Agglomerates= | |||
==Manga== | |||
<tt>check [[MangaDB DEV|MangaDB]]</tt> | |||
* like animenetries at AniDB | |||
* description | |||
* genres/categories | |||
* mangaka(s) [relation] | |||
* picture | |||
==Character== | |||
<tt>check [[CharDB DEV|CharDB]]</tt> | |||
* arbitrary number of titles (with language information) | |||
* picture | |||
* description | |||
* seiyuu [relation] | |||
* appearance in episodes [relation] | |||
==Song== | |||
<tt>check [[OstDB DEV|OstDB]]</tt> | |||
* arbitrary number of titles (with language information) | |||
* length (in seconds) | |||
* genre (?) | |||
* artists(s) [relation] | |||
* appearance in anime [relation] | |||
* ... | |||
==Collection== | |||
<tt>check [[OstDB DEV|OstDB]]</tt> | |||
* picture | |||
* arbitrary number of titles (with language information) | |||
* number of tracks | |||
* release date | |||
* genre (?) | |||
* artist(s) [relation] | |||
* anime(s) [relation] | |||
* ... | |||
=System= | |||
This details a bit of what is done and what we are aiming at | |||
[[Category:Development]] | [[Category:Development]] | ||
[[Category:CharDB]] | |||