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Welcome to the talk page for the Achievements feature on the AniDB wiki. Here we're discussing what to do to enhance it. I ([[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])) am the self-appointed guy in charge of keeping this wiki page (the reason being I was the guy who went through with its making and also who kicked enough butts to make the project fly when it was stalled). Feel free to add your input, but try to observe the existing formatting so as to keep consistency and (most importantly!) '''don't forget to sign!''' To sign, press the button that looks like a signature above the edit box, or simply type <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>.
Welcome to the talk page that helps the development and enhancement of AniDB's [[achievements]] feature by gathering, organizing and discussing community suggestions. I ([[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])) am the ''de facto'' overall in-charge in regards to this page and generally someone who pokes the relevant people about the feature. By all means, we'd like you to feel free to add your input and help our achievements improve, but please observe the following few guidelines:


This page was reformulated on 2012-02-20 and brought all the data from the old talk page, which may or may not still be accessible [[Talk:Achievements_Dev/Archive|here]]. All useful data was transferred. Answered questions, suggestions the authors gave up on, denied suggestions and implemented suggestions were ignored for the sake of keeping the page clean. There shouldn't be anything useful there, and if it's still there no one really knows why. Maybe because no one bothered deleting it.
* '''Sign your comments.''' This is very important so I'll stress it: '''sign your ''every'' comment.''' To sign, press the button that looks like a signature above the edit box, or simply type <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>. Please remember to do so at your '''every''' addition, and edit again to add a signature if you forget to do so. It's very hard to track who's saying what if people don't sign, creating confusion. Manual "signatures" may be added, or usernames appended, as required.
* '''Observe and follow the existing formatting.''' Consistency is important and helps information to stay findable.
* '''Don't add several suggestions on a single line.''' Multi-suggestion lines require posts to be edited to separate everything, because it's impossible to discuss anything unless the subject is clear.
* '''Be careful to not duplicate suggestions.''' Search the page before posting. Duplicates may be moved around, copyedited for integration, or replaced by "agreed"-style notes. Just adding that you agree with an existing suggestion is perfectly fine, though. However, clear duplicates of suggestions that are specifically on the denied suggestions area will be nuked on sight.
* '''Check if it's not somehow implemented on the [[Achievements|live achievements page]].''' More of a corollary of the previous guideline than a guideline of its own, really. Implemented suggestions are normally removed, and so are new "suggestions" to "implement" them; after all, the page is about ''development'', not about keeping discussion history of stuff already implemented.
* '''Sign your comments.''' I'm repeating this one because it's way too important. It's probably the most important point. Typing <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> or clicking the signature button isn't exactly hard and saves people a lot of trouble.


As of 2012-10-12 or the next day, depending on your timezone, this page also has a new section for creator and anime achievements suggestion, to avoid further clutter. This means I've also moved stuff around again, which is an error-prone monkey work. I'm human and I make mistakes, and even though I checked everything many times some issues may have slipped; if you find that I did something wrong, please fix it. Please help keep this page organized by keeping your replies organized and posting in the proper section. Thank you.
This section has most recently been updated at the time of my signature. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 05:31, 31 July 2014 (CEST)
 
--[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
 
 
== Update on 2014-01-27 ==
 
Guys, an update on the most recent posts on this page: I'm seeing a lot somewhat careless posts that are unwillingly making it hard to keep track of things on the page, so I came up with a few new guidelines to help keep things in line. '''Don't add several suggestions on a single line.''' When you do, I have to edit your posts to separate everything, because it's impossible to discuss anything unless the subject is clear. Also, '''be careful to not duplicate suggestions'''; try actually searching the page with ctrl+f before posting. I sometimes move duplicates around, or copyedit them to integrate them with the original one. If your duplicate adds nothing whatsoever I'll plain replace it with an "agreed" on the original one. If I seem to have removed your suggestion, that's the most likely reason, so search for keywords. Also check to see if it's not somehow implemented on the [Achievements|live achievements page]; [[User:Worf|Worf]] normally removes suggestions when adding them there as implemented, but I may also remove suggestions on cleanup. Additionally, clear duplicates of suggestions that are specifically on the denied area will be removed on sight. I don't touch that area, by the way; I watch it and I can guarantee only the mods move stuff there. Also, '''please sign with timestamps''', by typing <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> at every suggestion you make.
 
--[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




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* Number of anime watched before the birthdate of the user and number of anime watched from the childhood of the user (4-16 years since birthdate) --unknown author(s)
* Number of anime watched before the birthdate of the user and number of anime watched from the childhood of the user (4-16 years since birthdate) --unknown author(s)
** I frankly think those are rather bad ideas, as these achievements are inherently biased (yearly production varies; a 30 year old user and a 16 year old one will have wildly different amounts to watch...). In addition, privacy-concerned users will have one less badge to show off, as many avoid putting their birth date. You won't find mine on AniDB. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
** I frankly think those are rather bad ideas, as these achievements are inherently biased (yearly production varies; a 30 year old user and a 16 year old one will have wildly different amounts to watch...). In addition, privacy-concerned users will have one less badge to show off, as many avoid putting their birth date. You won't find mine on AniDB. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
* Adding lexicon articles and converted credits --unknown author(s)
** Though [[User:Der Idiot|Der Idiot]] is trying to work on some new better version of categories/tags/lexicon; may thus be redundant at some point in time? --[[User:Shitenshi|Shitenshi]]
*** In that case, we might put this idea on hold until the idea of how a new system would be takes shape. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
*** Ok, I was thinking about this, and I ''really'' think the way Lexicon works now is mostly ok. While yes, the cat/tag/ctag/crtag system needs to change, I think Lexicon itself is ok. Lexicon entries are quite well-moderated (requiring add creqs and stuff), they need the user to actually work (while not requiring them to know japanese or any such difficulties related to adding creators, adding anime, etc; just some common sense and a brain should generally suffice), and, most importantly, they help create higher quality tags by promoting integration, etc, not to mention the pic. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])




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** We already have this for porn, which at the end of the day is a category, so why the hell not. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
** We already have this for porn, which at the end of the day is a category, so why the hell not. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
** I could do category-based badges, but, like Shitenshi, have some concerns over privacy. (Anal badge at level 8, horray!) --[[User:Ommina|ommina]]
** I could do category-based badges, but, like Shitenshi, have some concerns over privacy. (Anal badge at level 8, horray!) --[[User:Ommina|ommina]]
** I believe it doesn't need to be that divided, audience categories should be simple. --[[User:microdark|microdark]]  
** I believe it doesn't need to be that divided, audience categories should be simple. --[[User:microdark|microdark]]
* I have been thinking about achievements for fetishes. Cat girls, sexy foxes, angels, boing boing (2 achievements next to eachother...) there's plenty to love.--Ikus 13:15, 28 November 2013 (CET)
* I have been thinking about achievements for fetishes. Cat girls, sexy foxes, angels, boing boing (2 achievements next to eachother...) there's plenty to love.--Ikus 13:15, 28 November 2013 (CET)
** Dupe, or kind of dupe, of the category-based badges. Moving. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** Dupe, or kind of dupe, of the category-based badges. Moving. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
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** I don't know about interesting, but I think it'd be a pain to implement and even to decide on parameters on. I see possible technical difficulties. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
** I don't know about interesting, but I think it'd be a pain to implement and even to decide on parameters on. I see possible technical difficulties. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
*** Interesting from the point that it would encourage more people to watch much older shows and see the evolution of Japanese animation through the years. As for the technical difficulties, I can definitely respect that, not only for the implementation, but for the computational load of the server as well. Some suggestions in case you bother with it: 1) The calculation should be a percentage of the total number of production years. There are currently 92 different production years. This number changes only once per year (It is very difficult for new entries from the missing years of the '20's, '40's and 50's to be added, if there are any) . So, there is no need to make the system calculate it every single time. It's a number you can set manually in the code and change it once per year. The calculation of the number of production years for every user has already been implemented in "My Reports". (But,I'm certain these are things you have already thought of. Maybe there are some more complicated issues. After all, I have done very little programming in my life to be of any more help). 2) The percentages should be kept the same e.x. I have seen from 76 different years so I would be a Level 7. 3) I don't think a special constraint would be a good idea (e.x. having seen at least 5 anime from that year) as it would be unfair (there is only one entry for some years) --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
*** Interesting from the point that it would encourage more people to watch much older shows and see the evolution of Japanese animation through the years. As for the technical difficulties, I can definitely respect that, not only for the implementation, but for the computational load of the server as well. Some suggestions in case you bother with it: 1) The calculation should be a percentage of the total number of production years. There are currently 92 different production years. This number changes only once per year (It is very difficult for new entries from the missing years of the '20's, '40's and 50's to be added, if there are any) . So, there is no need to make the system calculate it every single time. It's a number you can set manually in the code and change it once per year. The calculation of the number of production years for every user has already been implemented in "My Reports". (But,I'm certain these are things you have already thought of. Maybe there are some more complicated issues. After all, I have done very little programming in my life to be of any more help). 2) The percentages should be kept the same e.x. I have seen from 76 different years so I would be a Level 7. 3) I don't think a special constraint would be a good idea (e.x. having seen at least 5 anime from that year) as it would be unfair (there is only one entry for some years) --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
* It would be nice if those that actually contribute to the AniDB by adding new content or fixing present content got a few more Achievements:
** Creation of a '''new Anime Tag''' *with* description. (Since tag creation is linked to the user this should be possible to check, double-checking for a description might be problematic though. Especially, if checked now... i.e. I would have added descriptions for all those too lazy to do so. Not sure how to resolve this.)
** '''Add'''ing of '''anime tags''' to anime. (I find that there are many anime that could be tagged, but no one seems to bother doing so, so an achievement based incentive might be nice. Alas this could be abused. Maybe look up added tags that got at least 2-3 votes, thus had someone agree to them. Obviously, "agreed on" does not make "wrong" tags any more relevant, but...)
** For assigning '''Category entries''' to anime. (Quite a few anime could use more category entries, an achievement would be another incentive. I am not sure, if anyone can add category entries and needs no OK by an admin, if so, this might get ugly. Otherwise OK'ed category entries could be a relevant statistic.)
** For adding an '''anime description'''. (Maybe restrict it to actually writing one. Not sure how much bother it is to parse "- written by XYZ" is.)
** There are probably many more "contribution achievements", just mentioned those I normally look into. --[[User:Foo2|foo2]]
*** The tag/category suggestions are bad for now. We're working on the new tag system and it would be pointless. Furthermore, anything that passes through adding without mod control is bound to be abused and to create more issues. As for adding anime descriptions, considering I've written many descriptions for lots of stuff (anime, tags, chars, and so on) and never added "written by Hinoe" to my description, I'd say it's nearly impossible. That's more akin to something a mod might manually award to users who do that often. In addition, I think "fixing content" is covered by the creq award to some extent, and it's really hard to make a system figure out what's a minor description fix and what's a major overhaul or a complete rewrite. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)




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* Just to revisit the "achievements can't be assigned to tags" issue (in the other section) since it's been almost a year since it was last mentioned: I'm pretty sure nothing has changed on that front, especially with the new tag system rather around the corner, but can we have that as a high priority feature, achievements-wise? It doesn't need to be implemented ASAP or anything, but it's really high on my wishlist for the achievements system, so next time someone is going to implement a random feature can we have this at least considered? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* Just to revisit the "achievements can't be assigned to tags" issue (in the other section) since it's been almost a year since it was last mentioned: I'm pretty sure nothing has changed on that front, especially with the new tag system rather around the corner, but can we have that as a high priority feature, achievements-wise? It doesn't need to be implemented ASAP or anything, but it's really high on my wishlist for the achievements system, so next time someone is going to implement a random feature can we have this at least considered? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** Moved the suggestion, copyedited for clarity. I talked to [[User:Ommina|ommina]] and he says it MAY happen. No promises were given but he says it's doable. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
** Moved the suggestion, copyedited for clarity. I talked to [[User:Ommina|ommina]] and he says it MAY happen. No promises were given but he says it's doable. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
* I have noticed that some anime series don't have 'Anime Achievements'. So I wanted to know why anime series such as Bleach, Fairy Tail, Cat's Eye, You're Under Arrest!, Cobra(Space Cobra, Cobra The animation etc..) don't have 'Anime Achievements'. I think these animes deserve to have their own badges.--[[User:Ken81|Ken81]] ([[User talk:Ken81|talk]]) 02:01, 16 August 2016 (UCT)
** Unless the achievement has been denied (see near the end of the page for denied suggestions), many have already been suggested; if they haven't, you can suggest them yourself. They may also be included in a creator achievement (e.g. YUA is more likely to be covered by an eventual Fujishima Kousuke creator badge). --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:16, 29 January 2018 (UCT)




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* I would like to see a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=1204 Kikuchi Hideyuki] achievement. I am aware the amount of titles based on his works isn't that grand, however everything is in high budget OVA/movie format and he's a well-known author (with the western audience too). Even now, quite a few of his stuff are at least moderately popular (mainly the Vampire Hunter D movies, which are considered classics of the genre). --[[User:Gorgils|Gorgils]]
== Anime ==
 
 
* How about the [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=5787 Natsume Yuujinchou] series? --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
** I just separated this from the noitaminA badge suggestion above. Kind of borderline. Might be worth looking into, especially if it grows. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=Natsume+Yujincho&do.search=search Natsume Yujinchou] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** Dupe. Moving. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
 
 
* Some more suggestions: [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=cobra&do.search=search Space Adventure Cobra] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** Borderline, might qualify (see previous stuff about Natsume). --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
 
 
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=patlabor&do.search=search Patlabor] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** A classic. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
*** Large and very varied franchise (86 episodes), I'd also like to see a badge for it. Natural choice for the pic would be Alphonse. Alternatively Noa or Chief Goto. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)
 
 
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=dirty+pair&do.search=search Dirty Pair] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** Borderline as well, I should think. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
 
 
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=nodame+Cantabile&do.search=search Nodame Cantabile] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** Borderline, probably not sufficiently relevant. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
 


* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=Guyver&do.search=search Guyver] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** Too small to count. We have to draw the line somewhere. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)


* Let's not forget a [http://anidb.net/cr2 Wakamoto] badge. --Chroniko on IRC
** I figure the Wakamoto one would be a problem, but we might want it for the lulz if nothing else. He is very meme-spawning inside the anime community. It's really the kind of thing non-watchers would never, ever understand. He's also very awesome in general. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
** Seiyuu in general might be limited to at least secondary cast. No use for the listing of all Wakamoto walk-on parts. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])


* and maybe some way to connect all [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=452 these] through Scramble Wars. --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** Seriously? Those are all character relations, which are extremely weak. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)


* Building on the previous Wakamoto suggestion, [http://anidb.net/cr176 HanaKana]. She's a versatile seiyuu with a fuckton of roles and the most beautiful voice in the anime industry (suck it, Noto Mamiko!). --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:07, 10 February 2014 (CET)


* I'd like to see an achievement for the Toaru/Raildex series! -- [[User:CDB-Man|CDB-Man]] ([[User talk:CDB-Man|talk]]) 09:04, 8 October 2013 (CEST)
** Borderline in terms of [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=5975 size], but it's highly popular, so it qualifies. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
*** Much larger than one of your suggestions below. 100 eps if treated together. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)
**** Fair enough. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 07:40, 10 May 2015 (CEST)


* I think there should be a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=54 Kon Satoshi] Creator Badge! He's got the highly reputable body of work for it. --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
** I second this. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
** The problem with him is that his filmography is pretty unimpressive in numerical terms, making this mostly a Paranoia Agent badge. --[[User:Iroha|Iroha]] 15:31, 1 March 2013 (CET)
*** I understand and agree with the concern, but I should think he's high profile enough to warrant it anyway. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** He most definitely deserves an achievement. He made a huge impact, despite his relatively small list of works. --[[User:Mortsyn|Mortsyn]] 04:27, 27 March 2014 (CET)


* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=6662 Fairy Tail]. It has plenty of episodes and should continue. It's a fun show plenty of action and magic. It doesn't have real fillers or just short side stories between arc, it progress good. I love the comedy and subtle ecchi fanservice. When the show continues it would be worth to add for me. I see a Fairy Tail log on a burning/flaming background.--Ikus 12:57, 28 November 2013 (CET)
** Big enough to warrant one, I'd say. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)


* I recommend [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=871 Shirow Masamune] as well. --[[User:Fendweller|Fendweller]]
** I second this. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
*** Same. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)


* Ikki Tousen achievement. It's a classic series with a good fan base and probably has the most figures ever produced. Ikki tousen is still the best show in what it does. For the ecchi fan, this one is really important, I think.--Ikus 12:57, 28 November 2013 (CET)
** Probably borderline, see cases above. When the tag-based achievement becomes real, having a Romance of the Three Kingdoms tag achievement makes a tad more sense, if you ask me. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)


* On top of the two above, I add [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=50 Mamoru Hosoda] to the list, though he's only an up and coming director. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
** Seconded. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** Same here, he's quickly reached stardom fame the last few years. --[[User:Mortsyn|Mortsyn]] 04:33, 27 March 2014 (CEST)


* Since everyone is suggesting lots of semi-irrelevant cases, I'd like to nominate another borderline one: [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=7568 Kaminomi]. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** Seems too small at this point. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)


* Also perhaps a separate badge for everything [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=40 Hayao Miyazaki] has ever worked on, including his early stuff? --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
** The overlap with Ghibli is too big. This might be one to keep in mind for after a system rewrite allows more advanced stuff, but right now there is too little a point, I think. Watching his movies is essentially two achievements for the price of one. :) Though, of course, with how prolific he is, that isn't necessarily a big problem. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
*** The more advanced system isn't happening so this goes back to being an idea. I'm not sure I like it, but whatever. Just saying it to "deshoot up" (??) the idea I shot down earlier. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)


* Just for good measure, since it's covered by the Dezaki Osamu suggestion above, but [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=1457 Ashita no Joe]. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)


* Perhaps also Production I.G. and Madhouse, in addition to the existing Studio 4C. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
** While Ghibli, KyoAni and 4C all can be said to have a very clear style, I doubt the same can be said of studios such as I.G and Madhouse. With their size, I'm not sure it's such a good idea. If we add them just because, we're going to need to add all major studios, and frankly the mylist badges already kinda covers that stuff. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* I think that a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=721 Production I.G.] achievement should exist. Many good series from them --[[User:Siborg|Siborg]] ([[User talk:Siborg|talk]]) 04:45, 8 November 2013 (CET)
** Dupe, moving. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)


* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=1072 Ace o Nerae]. It falls short of being fully covered by the Dezaki Osamu suggestion due to [http://anidb.net/a1073 Shin Ace o Nerae!] --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)


* Would a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=lexicon&lexiconid=76 noitaminA] Badge be out of place? --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
** I'm in support of a Noitamina badge. [[User:Soulweaver|Soulweaver]] 14:48, 23 April 2012 (CEST)
** I don't know what to file this under, tbh. I'm leaving it under anime/creator for now. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:16, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
*** There is currently no way to award watching anime that have a certain tag. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET)
**** There might be one in the future, see the other section. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)


* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=12810 Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha]. Sort of borderline episode count-wise but pretty relevant. --[[User:Pegase|Pegase]] 04:05, 27 February 2017 (CET)
** I agree with its relevance. Also, at 90 episodes plus whatever happens in the new series without an ep count yet, I wouldn't consider it borderline anymore. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:16, 29 January 2018 (UCT)


* Not particularly interested in noitaminA, but I'd like a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=lexicon&vtype=tag&relid=6905 Young Animator Training Project] badge. Because it's really cool stuff. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 03:48, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
** Context: my suggestion was originally said in response to the noitaminA suggestion above. [[User:Worf|Worf]]'s response below is a copy of the one he gave there, just for good measure. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** There is currently no way to award watching anime that have a certain tag. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET).
*** There might be one in the future, see the other section. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)


* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=6327 Bakemonogatari]. Needless to say it is one of the most iconic and relevant, multi-seasonal anime of the 2010's. --[[User:Pyunyun|Pyunyun]]
** The NisiOisiN suggestion in the creator badges section would include the entirety of this already, so there is probably no point in a separate (anything)monogatari badge. [[User:Soulweaver|Soulweaver]] ([[User talk:Soulweaver|talk]]) 13:52, 29 July 2019 (UTC)


* [http://anidb.net/tag111 World Masterpiece Theater] series anime watched --unknown author
== Writers, mangaka, etc ==
** I like this one a lot. They're not linked closely like other creator/show badges, but it makes sense because the brand name has its own touch and is generally based off classic literature. Culture never hurts. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
** I agree! Not to mention (most of them) are really good! --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
*** There is currently no way to award watching anime that have a certain tag. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET)
**** There might be one in the future, see the other section. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)




* How about the [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=5787 Natsume Yuujinchou] series? --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
* I would like to see a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=1204 Kikuchi Hideyuki] achievement. I am aware the amount of titles based on his works isn't that grand, however everything is in high budget OVA/movie format and he's a well-known author (with the western audience too). Even now, quite a few of his stuff are at least moderately popular (mainly the Vampire Hunter D movies, which are considered classics of the genre). --[[User:Gorgils|Gorgils]]
** I just separated this from the noitaminA badge suggestion above. Kind of borderline. Might be worth looking into, especially if it grows. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=Natsume+Yujincho&do.search=search Natsume Yujinchou] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** Dupe. Moving. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




* I'm... not quite sure how this hasn't been suggested before, but I'd like to see an achievement for SHAFT shows under Shinbou's style. I took the liberty of checking the entire list of shows that credit Shinbou as either director or chief director, and the list of shows with Animation Work credits for SHAFT, and of crossing them over to see the results. It appears to me that the shows they create are only memorable in any manner (good or bad, depending on your taste) when SHAFT is doing what Shinbou wants, and when Shinbou can make SHAFT do what he wants. The rest is like Evangelion without Anno Hideaki; it might be good, but it's radically different. As such, I'd like a badge for shows that fulfill both: 1) Animation Work credits for SHAFT; and 2) either Direction or Chief Direction credits for Shinbou. Opinions on this (rather unusual, I know) suggestion? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 24 February 2013 (CET)
* I recommend [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=871 Shirow Masamune] as well. --[[User:Fendweller|Fendweller]]
** Not doable at the moment. Well, it would be doable but someone would have to create that list manually. And keep it updated. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:33, 28 February 2013 (CET)
** I second this. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
*** Moved the rest of this discussion to a more fitting section, namely that of the denied ideas since that's what a talk on IRC made clear. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
*** Same. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
*** '''TOTALLY UNRELATED''' to the creator math idea but still on Shinbou and SHAFT: is it currently possible to limit an achievement by date? If not, I'll just file it as a feature request. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
**** Fourthed. A good choice for the badge would be Briaeros from Appleseed. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)




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* [http://anidb.net/cr149 Ootomo Katsuhiro] --[[User:Iroha|Iroha]] 15:47, 1 March 2013 (CET)
* the works by [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=866 Masakazu Katsura] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
** Most of his credits aren't badge material, so in the end we'd have a pretty unimpressive badge in numerical terms. This we can deal with, see Satoshi Kon badge discussion. Another, maybe bigger problem is that many of his badge credits have episode restrictions (i.e. directed one ep out of several), and I'm inclined to think the system can't deal with that too well. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** Not relevant enough, I think. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
 
 
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=981 Araki Hirohiko.] The man has created one of the most prolific, famous, and meme-tastic series of all time. If not a creator achievement, then at least an anime achievement for [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=788 JoJo.] --[[User:Mortsyn|Mortsyn]] 04:57, 27 March 2014 (CET)
** I think a JoJo achievement sounds like a good idea, especially with its newly-gained status in the anime community as a whole. That 1 episode OVA based on something else by the same author doesn't seem too important, however, and creator achievements are for people who have a rather broader work list, so I think that's not such a good option. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 07:14, 7 April 2014 (CEST)
*** A JoJo one should be warranted by now, with the third series bringing the total episodes to around 90. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)
 
 
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=2442 Urobuchi Gen.] He's one of the few writers who almost everyone in the anime (and related) community is familiar with. --[[User:Mortsyn|Mortsyn]] 15:47, 27 March 2014 (CET)
** I'm actually uncertain about this one. His most relevant major credit is covered by the Type-Moon achievement already and the rest doesn't seem to hit the bar. If we include his scriptwriting credits, which are considered minor credits, we can include Madoka, which is his other very high-profile work, but I'm not sure we want to open that can of worms for him alone. It's certainly a good consideration for the future, though. Perhaps if they announce a Saya no Uta anime? :D --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 07:14, 7 April 2014 (CEST)
 
 
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=862 Houjou Tsukasa]. As a replacement of the City Hunter badge, so that Cat's Eye can be included. --[[User:Pegase|Pegase]] 04:04, 18 February 2017 (CET)
** Makes perfect sense to me. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:16, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
 
 
== Directors ==




* Some more suggestions: [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=cobra&do.search=search Space Adventure Cobra] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
* I think there should be a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=54 Kon Satoshi] Creator Badge! He's got the highly reputable body of work for it. --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
** Borderline, might qualify (see previous stuff about Natsume). --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** I second this. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
** The problem with him is that his filmography is pretty unimpressive in numerical terms, making this mostly a Paranoia Agent badge. --[[User:Iroha|Iroha]] 15:31, 1 March 2013 (CET)
*** I understand and agree with the concern, but I should think he's high profile enough to warrant it anyway. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** He most definitely deserves an achievement. He made a huge impact, despite his relatively small list of works. --[[User:Mortsyn|Mortsyn]] 04:27, 27 March 2014 (CET)




* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=patlabor&do.search=search Patlabor] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
* On top of the two above, I add [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=50 Mamoru Hosoda] to the list, though he's only an up and coming director. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
** A classic. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** Seconded. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** Same here, he's quickly reached stardom fame the last few years. --[[User:Mortsyn|Mortsyn]] 04:33, 27 March 2014 (CEST)
*** Very unimpressive. Of the eight films that are out, four are already included other badges (2×Digimon, 1×One Piece, 1×GeGeGe) and another is a Louis Vuitton commercial. While the other three are nice, I don't think they don't justify an achievement. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)




* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=dirty+pair&do.search=search Dirty Pair] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
* Also perhaps a separate badge for everything [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=40 Hayao Miyazaki] has ever worked on, including his early stuff? --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
** Borderline as well, I should think. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** The overlap with Ghibli is too big. This might be one to keep in mind for after a system rewrite allows more advanced stuff, but right now there is too little a point, I think. Watching his movies is essentially two achievements for the price of one. :) Though, of course, with how prolific he is, that isn't necessarily a big problem. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
*** The more advanced system isn't happening so this goes back to being an idea. I'm not sure I like it, but whatever. Just saying it to "deshoot up" (??) the idea I shot down earlier. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)




* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=alchemist&do.search=search Full Metal Alchemist] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
* [https://anidb.net/cr59 Shinbou]. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:53, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
** Probably relevant enough to qualify. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** This is a replacement dated 2015 for a suggestion from 2013 concerning Shinbou and SHAFT. The old debate is no longer relevant here. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:53, 29 January 2018 (UCT)




* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=2659 Aria] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
* [http://anidb.net/cr149 Ootomo Katsuhiro] --[[User:Iroha|Iroha]] 15:47, 1 March 2013 (CET)
** Probably borderline, might qualify due to the amount of praise it gets. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** Most of his credits aren't badge material, so in the end we'd have a pretty unimpressive badge in numerical terms. This we can deal with, see Satoshi Kon badge discussion. Another, maybe bigger problem is that many of his badge credits have episode restrictions (i.e. directed one ep out of several), and I'm inclined to think the system can't deal with that too well. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=nodame+Cantabile&do.search=search Nodame Cantabile] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
* I would like to see a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=49 Masaaki Yuasa] (as 監督 director) creator achievement. --[[User:Ryuurei|Ryuurei]]
** Borderline, probably not sufficiently relevant. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** Pretty sure I'd seen this suggestion before. Anyway, yes, Yuasa Masaaki is important. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
*** Distinctive style and as opposed to most other suggestions in that vein, he actually has some considerable output. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)




* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=hajime+no+ippo&do.search=search Hajime no Ippo] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=145 Osamu Dezaki] (all Major Staff page) Achievement will be great too! --[[User:Ryuurei|Ryuurei]]
** Agreed, important enough. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** I agree. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=Rurouni+Kenshin&do.search=search Rurouni Kenshin] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
* [http://anidb.net/cr445 Shinkai Makoto]. Not sure how nobody suggested him before. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** Must have. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** Only twelve episodes, while counting 5cm per Second as three. Another case where the progression seems too steep. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)




* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animelist&adb.search=Guyver&do.search=search Guyver] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
* [http://anidb.net/cr131 Oshii Mamoru]. Not sure how nobody suggested him before. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** Too small to count. We have to draw the line somewhere. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




* the works by [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=866 Masakazu Katsura] --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=155 Imaishi Hiroyuki?] He's been in charge of some of the most creative and talked-about anime as of yet. --[[User:Mortsyn|Mortsyn]] 04:57, 27 March 2014 (CET)
** Not relevant enough, I think. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** It's possible. In time we might also prefer a Trigger achievement, though. It's really hard to say in this case, especially with the Gainax achievement suggestion running around, and with the Evangelion achievement existing and everything. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 07:14, 7 April 2014 (CEST)




* and maybe some way to connect all [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=452 these] through Scramble Wars. --[[User:nisei7|nisei7]]
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=129 Watanabe Shin'ichirou.] One of the most famous anime directors of all time, who left a huge mark in the west. --[[User:Mortsyn|Mortsyn]] 15:47, 27 March 2014 (CET)
** Seriously? Those are all character relations, which are extremely weak. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** Definitely seconded. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 07:14, 7 April 2014 (CEST)




* I would like to see a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=49 Masaaki Yuasa] (as 監督 director) creator achievement. --[[User:Ryuurei|Ryuurei]]
* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=3648 Ikuhara Kunihiko]. He's a pretty important director with a very characteristic style, and whether you like what he did after Utena or not, his work is overall really memorable. Main problem is, it overlaps a lot with the Sailor Moon badge, but even without that he's still 76 episodes tall right now, so it depends on whether we can make a Ikuhara achievment w/o Sailor Moon. --[[User:Pegase|Pegase]] 15:20, 1 March 2017 (CET)
** Pretty sure I'd seen this suggestion before. Anyway, yes, Yuasa Masaaki is important.
** Leaving Yurikuma Arashi aside, I also think Utena and MPD should be covered by a badge, but the overlap is definitely an issue. Currently, to my knowledge, there's no way to exclude specific anime, so we're out of luck here. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:16, 29 January 2018 (UCT)




* And a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=718 Gainax] studio (as 製作 animation production) one. --[[User:Ryuurei|Ryuurei]]
== Studios ==
** This is a case similar to the SHAFT one. There were a select few brains making Gainax good. Today they're with Khara or Trigger and Gainax is a ghost of itself. I'd sooner prefer an achievement on the creators that made Gainax good, or a Gainax-with-person-so-and-so achievement when (if) it becomes possible. Be it SHAFT alone or Gainax alone, I see no reason. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
*** The mixed creator thing isn't happening but I'm still against this idea. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)




* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=145 Osamu Dezaki] (all Major Staff page) Achievement will be great too! --[[User:Ryuurei|Ryuurei]]
* Perhaps also Production I.G. and Madhouse, in addition to the existing Studio 4C. --[[User:Megumi komeshi|Megumi komeshi]] 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
** I agree. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** While Ghibli, KyoAni and 4C all can be said to have a very clear style, I doubt the same can be said of studios such as I.G and Madhouse. With their size, I'm not sure it's such a good idea. If we add them just because, we're going to need to add all major studios, and frankly the mylist badges already kinda covers that stuff. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* I think that a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=721 Production I.G.] achievement should exist. Many good series from them --[[User:Siborg|Siborg]] ([[User talk:Siborg|talk]]) 04:45, 8 November 2013 (CET)
** Dupe, moving. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




* I'd like to see an achievement for the Toaru/Raildex series! -- [[User:CDB-Man|CDB-Man]] ([[User talk:CDB-Man|talk]]) 09:04, 8 October 2013 (CEST)
* And a [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=718 Gainax] studio (as 製作 animation production) one. --[[User:Ryuurei|Ryuurei]]
** Borderline in terms of [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=5975 size], but it's highly popular, so it qualifies. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** This is a case similar to the SHAFT one. There were a select few brains making Gainax good. Today they're with Khara or Trigger and Gainax is a ghost of itself. I'd sooner prefer an achievement on the creators that made Gainax good, or a Gainax-with-person-so-and-so achievement when (if) it becomes possible. Be it SHAFT alone or Gainax alone, I see no reason. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
*** The mixed creator thing isn't happening but I'm still against this idea. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
**** The few shit shows like Medaka Box don't outweigh the wealth of great stuff Gainax has done in the past. KyoAni also has a bunch of terrible shows (almost everything recent), but still has a badge. If you want the highest level of an achievement, it should cost you some blood, sweat and tears. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)
***** Again, make it an achievement on the ''people'' that made Gainax good. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 07:40, 10 May 2015 (CEST)




* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=6662 Fairy tail]. It has plenty of episodes and should continue. It's a fun show plenty of action and magic. It doesn't have real fillers or just short side stories between arc, it progress good. I love the comedy and subtle ecchi fanservice. When the show continues it would be worth to add for me. I see a Fairy Tail log on a burning/flaming background.--Ikus 12:57, 28 November 2013 (CET)
== Seiyuu ==
** Big enough to warrant one, I'd say. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




* Ikki tousen achievement. It's a classic series with a good fan base and probably has the most figures ever produced. Ikki tousen is still the best show in what it does. For the ecchi fan, this one is really important, I think.--Ikus 12:57, 28 November 2013 (CET)
* Let's not forget a [http://anidb.net/cr2 Wakamoto] badge. --Chroniko on IRC
** Probably borderline, see cases above. When the tag-based achievement becomes real, having a Romance of the Three Kingdoms tag achievement makes a tad more sense, if you ask me. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
** I figure the Wakamoto one would be a problem, but we might want it for the lulz if nothing else. He is very meme-spawning inside the anime community. It's really the kind of thing non-watchers would never, ever understand. He's also very awesome in general. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
** Seiyuu in general might be limited to at least secondary cast. No use for the listing of all Wakamoto walk-on parts. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])




* About Naruto, I can understand why, but at the same time I think anyone who has been watching Naruto since 2002 (like me) deserves a statue, or at least an achievement. Even if you don't want to give one, make it part of a bigger achievement. I was thinking about a "fill me up," "I survived boredom," I'm talking about negative achievements. In this case certain anime with terrible fillers ( like DBZ snake way) those stack up for an achievement. Giving an achievement for watching fillers, give something for suffering.--Ikus 13:15, 28 November 2013 (CET)
* Building on the previous Wakamoto suggestion, [http://anidb.net/cr176 HanaKana]. She's a versatile seiyuu with a fuckton of roles and the most beautiful voice in the anime industry (suck it, Noto Mamiko!). --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:07, 10 February 2014 (CET)
** If you've been watching Naruto since 2002 and think you deserve a status for that, I think you deserve to be shot, but maybe that's just me. Anyway, I'm not sure there's a great point in that kind of "achievement", but I guess to each their own. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)




* [http://anidb.net/cr445 Shinkai Makoto]. Not sure how nobody suggested him before. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
== Musicians ==




* [http://anidb.net/cr131 Oshii Mamoru]. Not sure how nobody suggested him before. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* I'm not sure if that qualifies but I think [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=241 Kanno Youko] would make a great badge on the creators achievement side. She's a genuinely iconic creator and made tons of great tracks for lots of popular series (which, I admit, include overlaps (Gundam, Macross) and not-so-great series (Macross F, Zankyou no Terror)) in a career spanning over twenty years. I don't know if a music achievement makes sense here but I believe it's worth considering --[[User:Pegase|Pegase]] 04:04, 18 February 2017 (CET)
** I can't speak about whether we want music achievements, but if we do, she's definitely be included among the composers we'd be add; others would include Kajiura Yuki and Kawai Kenji. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:16, 29 January 2018 (UCT)




* Since everyone is suggesting lots of semi-irrelevant cases, I'd like to nominate another borderline one: [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=7568 Kaminomi]. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
== Tags ==




* Just for good measure, since it's covered by the Dezaki Osamu suggestion above, but [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=1457 Ashita no Joe]. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* Please note that tag-based badges are '''currently not addable'''. This is a wishlist item for someday/never. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 02:14, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
** Of note, see worf's statement below. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 02:14, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
*** There is currently no way to award watching anime that have a certain tag. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET)
**** There might be one in the future, see the other section. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)




* [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=1072 Ace o Nerae]. It falls short of being fully covered by the Dezaki Osamu suggestion due to [http://anidb.net/a1073 Shin Ace o Nerae!] --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
* Would a [https://anidb.net/t3865 noitaminA] Badge be out of place? --[[User:JQF|JQF]]
** I'm in support of a Noitamina badge. [[User:Soulweaver|Soulweaver]] 14:48, 23 April 2012 (CEST)
*** Revising my previous instance of not caring much to also agree with this one. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 02:14, 29 January 2018 (UCT)




* [url=http://anidb.net/cr981]Araki Hirohiko[/url]. The man has created one of the most prolific, famous, and meme-tastic series of all time. If not a creator achievement, then at least an anime achievement for [url=http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=rel&aid=788]JoJo[/url]. --[[User:Mortsyn|Mortsyn]] 04:53, 27 March 2014 (CET)
* I'd like a [https://anidb.net/t4859 Young Animator Training Project] badge. Because it's really cool stuff. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 03:48, 13 October 2012 (CEST)




* [url=http://anidb.net/cr155]Imaishi Hiroyuki[/url]? He's been in charge of some of the most creative and talked-about Anime as of yet. --[[User:Mortsyn|Mortsyn]] 04:53, 27 March 2014 (CET)
* [https://anidb.net/t3763 World Masterpiece Theater] series anime watched --unknown author
** I like this one a lot. They're not linked closely like other creator/show badges, but it makes sense because the brand name has its own touch and is generally based off classic literature. Culture never hurts. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
** I agree! Not to mention (most of them) are really good! --[[User:JQF|JQF]]


= Anime Classics and/or Genre Packs =
= Anime Classics and/or Genre Packs =
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** Sakigake!! Cromartie Koukou --[[User:Hughjasss|Hughjasss]]
** Sakigake!! Cromartie Koukou --[[User:Hughjasss|Hughjasss]]
** Puni Puni Poemi --[[User:Hughjasss|Hughjasss]]
** Puni Puni Poemi --[[User:Hughjasss|Hughjasss]]
** Nichijou --[[User:Pegase|Pegase]]
** Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou --[[User:Pegase|Pegase]] (makes a lot more sense here than in the slice of life section in my opinion)


* Shounen Ai and Shoujo Ai genres as well? That said, I don't know enough anime to provide with proper lists of anime. --[[User:Shitenshi|Shitenshi]]
* Shounen Ai and Shoujo Ai genres as well? That said, I don't know enough anime to provide with proper lists of anime. --[[User:Shitenshi|Shitenshi]]
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** I think they were denied on account of being shitty. Don't quote me on it, though. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:09, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
** I think they were denied on account of being shitty. Don't quote me on it, though. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:09, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
*** Denied (again) by [[User:Worf|Worf]] on 24 February 2013. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 08:17, 1 February 2014 (CET)
*** Denied (again) by [[User:Worf|Worf]] on 24 February 2013. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 08:17, 1 February 2014 (CET)
** About Naruto, I can understand why, but at the same time I think anyone who has been watching Naruto since 2002 (like me) deserves a statue, or at least an achievement. Even if you don't want to give one, make it part of a bigger achievement. I was thinking about a "fill me up," "I survived boredom," I'm talking about negative achievements. In this case certain anime with terrible fillers ( like DBZ snake way) those stack up for an achievement. Giving an achievement for watching fillers, give something for suffering.--Ikus 13:15, 28 November 2013 (CET)
*** If you've been watching Naruto since 2002 and think you deserve a status for that, I think you deserve to be shot, but maybe that's just me. Anyway, I'm not sure there's a great point in that kind of "achievement", but I guess to each their own. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
**** Although this has already been shot down in the past, Naruto (or also Bleach) being a terrible show is not much of an argument when we have achievements for Beyblade and Yu-Gi-Oh! But if there's no hope for it anyway, just move this down to the rest. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)
****  Also Prince of Tennis, Precure, Pokemon, One Piece, Dragon Ball (a lot of old episodes are shitty as hell, like Naruto but yeah, ok). I watched only a 100 eps and have only 2 favorites for their directing (Wakabayashi ones). Also, there is a large community who are watching Naruto only for its animation (sakuga) fights, since the story is dumb. Same thing for Bleach, Toriko and a lot of shitty Shonen Jump animes.[[User:Excelsi0r|Excelsi0r]] ([[User talk:Excelsi0r|talk]]) 10:14, 20 September 2015




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* This references a talk in another section, CTRL+F for Shinbou or SHAFT for more info. Moved here because it's a dead feature request. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
* I'm... not quite sure how this hasn't been suggested before, but I'd like to see an achievement for SHAFT shows under Shinbou's style. I took the liberty of checking the entire list of shows that credit Shinbou as either director or chief director, and the list of shows with Animation Work credits for SHAFT, and of crossing them over to see the results. It appears to me that the shows they create are only memorable in any manner (good or bad, depending on your taste) when SHAFT is doing what Shinbou wants, and when Shinbou can make SHAFT do what he wants. The rest is like Evangelion without Anno Hideaki; it might be good, but it's radically different. As such, I'd like a badge for shows that fulfill both: 1) Animation Work credits for SHAFT; and 2) either Direction or Chief Direction credits for Shinbou. Opinions on this (rather unusual, I know) suggestion? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 24 February 2013 (CET)
** TL;DR a list that took two creators into account or did any sort of creator math would have to be manually created. [[User:Ommina|ommina]] says it's not going to happen as an automatic feature without much work. Manually updating such a list is '''highly''' problematic because it requires a pretty high access level (file-based, no admin frontend to the system, one not happening this century despite my arguments in support of one) so it's not gonna happen either. Just below is an older talk to between worf and myself which is stored for reference purposes only since it's pretty useless by now. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
** Not doable at the moment. Well, it would be doable but someone would have to create that list manually. And keep it updated. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 00:33, 28 February 2013 (CET)
*** You mean like [[Achievements_Dev/Shinbou-SHAFT_Achievement|this]]? :) --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 05:30, 28 February 2013 (CET)
*** You mean like <strike>this</strike>? :) --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 05:30, 28 February 2013 (CET) (Note: previously linked to a page to be nuked; page contains a few manually crafted (and now useless) lists of anime.)
**** Yeah, except your list isn't very useful. And keeping it up2date and feeding it to the achievement system automatically is also not going to work. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 22:56, 28 February 2013 (CET)
**** Yeah, except your list isn't very useful. And keeping it up2date and feeding it to the achievement system automatically is also not going to work. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 22:56, 28 February 2013 (CET)
***** Yeah, uhh, do you want it done manually or automatically? If you say it needs to be done manually and then complain it won't work automatically, you're not making much sense. If the problem is I'm using names rather than IDs, however, that was simply how I had made the list back when I needed it; converting it to IDs is a bit on the annoying monkey work side, but it needs to be done just once and it's not a lot of entries anyway. I still would rather simply use some manner of query to make it all automatic (are you ''sure'' we can't get that to be automatic?), but hey, can't have a party every day. (If all else fails, just make a badge for either, or maybe one for each.) --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 09:02, 1 March 2013 (CET)
***** Yeah, uhh, do you want it done manually or automatically? If you say it needs to be done manually and then complain it won't work automatically, you're not making much sense. If the problem is I'm using names rather than IDs, however, that was simply how I had made the list back when I needed it; converting it to IDs is a bit on the annoying monkey work side, but it needs to be done just once and it's not a lot of entries anyway. I still would rather simply use some manner of query to make it all automatic (are you ''sure'' we can't get that to be automatic?), but hey, can't have a party every day. (If all else fails, just make a badge for either, or maybe one for each.) --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 09:02, 1 March 2013 (CET)
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******* Yeah, there's a problem with that kicking people into work thing. I'm afraid I can't really help there. Can we have that sort of feature into a wishlist, if nothing else? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
******* Yeah, there's a problem with that kicking people into work thing. I'm afraid I can't really help there. Can we have that sort of feature into a wishlist, if nothing else? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
******** Just because people only check the last reply, I'll say again: feature not going to happen, use just one of the creators for now, or whatever really. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
******** Just because people only check the last reply, I'll say again: feature not going to happen, use just one of the creators for now, or whatever really. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
*** '''TOTALLY UNRELATED''' to the creator math idea but still on Shinbou and SHAFT: is it currently possible to limit an achievement by date? If not, I'll just file it as a feature request. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
*** See my comments below on Gainax. Either go with just a SHAFT or just a Shinbou badge. There's no point in excluding some old stuff because you don't want to watch What's Michael or Metal Fighter Miku for your achievement. Also keep in mind that SHAFT has done some good shows without Shinbou (and vice versa) and that they have also put out garbage together. If you're a completionist, you have to suffer anyway. [[User:Iroha|Iroha]] ([[User talk:Iroha|talk]]) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)
**** Some time ago, I have no idea when, I mentioned, probably on IRC, that I wanted to convert that idea into a Shinbou badge (SHAFT badge or no SHAFT badge being not a concern of mine at that point, or indeed at this point). So yeah, I think that works. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 07:40, 10 May 2015 (CEST)
***** Moved to denied, replaced by a suggestion for a Shinbou badge. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:53, 29 January 2018 (UCT)




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** Not gonna happen. Statwhoring by adding useless/crappy/incomplete entries is too likely. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 17:41, 16 January 2012 (CET)
** Not gonna happen. Statwhoring by adding useless/crappy/incomplete entries is too likely. --[[User:Worf|Worf]] 17:41, 16 January 2012 (CET)
*** Copied from the old article just now because I decided that since we're going to have a section listing denied ideas we might as well keep it as complete as possible. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 20:13, 6 March 2014 (CET)
*** Copied from the old article just now because I decided that since we're going to have a section listing denied ideas we might as well keep it as complete as possible. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 20:13, 6 March 2014 (CET)
* Adding lexicon articles and converted credits --unknown author(s)
** Though [[User:Der Idiot|Der Idiot]] is trying to work on some new better version of categories/tags/lexicon; may thus be redundant at some point in time? --[[User:Shitenshi|Shitenshi]]
*** In that case, we might put this idea on hold until the idea of how a new system would be takes shape. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
*** Ok, I was thinking about this, and I ''really'' think the way Lexicon works now is mostly ok. While yes, the cat/tag/ctag/crtag system needs to change, I think Lexicon itself is ok. Lexicon entries are quite well-moderated (requiring add creqs and stuff), they need the user to actually work (while not requiring them to know japanese or any such difficulties related to adding creators, adding anime, etc; just some common sense and a brain should generally suffice), and, most importantly, they help create higher quality tags by promoting integration, etc, not to mention the pic. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]])
** Lexicon has been dead for a year now thanks to the current tag system, so... let's axe this? --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 10:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
** Lexicon is dead and buried, and it's also not gonna happen for the new tag system. I have enough stupid tags to handle without more being added for the sake of a badge. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 01:58, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
* It would be nice if those that actually contribute to the AniDB by adding new content or fixing present content got a few more Achievements:
** Creation of a '''new Anime Tag''' *with* description. (Since tag creation is linked to the user this should be possible to check, double-checking for a description might be problematic though. Especially, if checked now... i.e. I would have added descriptions for all those too lazy to do so. Not sure how to resolve this.)
** '''Add'''ing of '''anime tags''' to anime. (I find that there are many anime that could be tagged, but no one seems to bother doing so, so an achievement based incentive might be nice. Alas this could be abused. Maybe look up added tags that got at least 2-3 votes, thus had someone agree to them. Obviously, "agreed on" does not make "wrong" tags any more relevant, but...)
** For assigning '''Category entries''' to anime. (Quite a few anime could use more category entries, an achievement would be another incentive. I am not sure, if anyone can add category entries and needs no OK by an admin, if so, this might get ugly. Otherwise OK'ed category entries could be a relevant statistic.)
** For adding an '''anime description'''. (Maybe restrict it to actually writing one. Not sure how much bother it is to parse "- written by XYZ" is.)
** There are probably many more "contribution achievements", just mentioned those I normally look into. --[[User:Foo2|foo2]]
*** The tag/category suggestions are bad for now. We're working on the new tag system and it would be pointless. Furthermore, anything that passes through adding without mod control is bound to be abused and to create more issues. As for adding anime descriptions, considering I've written many descriptions for lots of stuff (anime, tags, chars, and so on) and never added "written by Hinoe" to my description, I'd say it's nearly impossible. That's more akin to something a mod might manually award to users who do that often. In addition, I think "fixing content" is covered by the creq award to some extent, and it's really hard to make a system figure out what's a minor description fix and what's a major overhaul or a complete rewrite. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
**** With the new tag system, I think the tag/category stuff can be axed. Adding a description would need to be done manually, not prone to happening, and can't be based on written by xyz. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 10:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
*** Tag/category stuff denied for the reasons above. Descriptions stuff is bound to be impossible to implement; it would clearly require lots of work to be done for ''each user'', so I'm going to assume what seems obvious here and also file it as denied. So all denied except assigning tags, which is already implemented. --[[User:Hinoe|Hinoe]] ([[User talk:Hinoe|talk]]) 02:20, 29 January 2018 (UCT)
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