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-<b>The group status</b> informs you about the current state of a rel done by a certain group.<br>
+[[Groupentries:Status|The Groupstatus]] displays information about the current state of a release.<br>
 This information is displayed in the [[Animeentries#Groupinfo|groupinfobox on every animeentry]] and in the [[groupentries|groupentry]] for every listed group in AniDB.
-{{eyecatch|Note:|This feature doesn't have to be 100% correct as it's data is generated by AniDB automatically for most parts and is very dependent on the users. Meaning if not all files the group did were added to AniDB by the users it can't work properly.}}
+{{eyecatch|Note:|This feature doesn't have to be 100% correct as it's data is generated by AniDB automatically for most parts and is very dependent on the users. This means if users didn't add all files a group released it won't show the "true" status.}}
-==How it works==
+==Possible States==
-You need to understand how the AniDB system works to understand the ongoing/stalled/finished/complete states. AniDB only check for the "highest" added episode by a group to set states. A timestamp gets set for this episode and if a "higher" ep doesn't get released in a defined timeframe it's getting set stalled. Adding lower eps won't change this.
+<i>(asuming all files released by the group got added to AniDB)</i>
-Lets make an example to show what this means:<br>
-[http://anidb.info/a266 Meitantei Conan] Anime Conan is set "314 stalled 06.07.2003". why is that even though they are still releasing?<br>
-Like shown they released ep 314 on the 06.07.2003. AniDB is waiting for them to release ep 315. until this happens it will set stalled for eternity.<br>
-==Possible States==
 *<b>complete</b>
-:<i>The group released for every episode for an anime in AniDB at least 1 file.</i>
+:<i>The group released for every episode for a specific anime in AniDB at least 1 file.</i>
 *<b>finished</b>
 :<i>The group released at least 1 file for the last episode of an anime.</i>
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 :<i>The group has officially abandoned this project or the group isn't existing anymore.
 :THIS IS THE ONLY STATE SET MANUALLY BY MODS.</i>
+{{eyecatch|Note:|Stalled, finished and complete are atomically generated states! They <b>CAN'T</b> be set by AniDB mods!<br>Dropped is the only state which can be set by Mods!}}
-{{eyecatch|Note:|Stalled, finished and complete are atomically generated states! They <b>CAN'T</b> be set by AniDB mods!<br>Ongoing and dropped are the only 2 states which can be set by Mods!}}
+==How it works==
+===stalled===
+AniDB only check for the <i>highest</i> added file for an episode by a group to set states. A timestamp gets set for this episode and if a <i>higher</i> ep doesn't get released in a defined timeframe it gets set stalled. Adding <i>lower</i> eps won't change the timestamp.
+<i>Lets make an example to show what this means:</i><br>
+:[http://anidb.info/a266 Meitantei Conan]
+:Anime Conan is set <b>314 stalled 06.07.2003</b> by AniDB.
+:Though they are still releasing frequently enough to qualify for <b>ongoing</b>. Now why are they marked stalled?
+:Like shown they released ep 314 on the 06.07.2003. AniDB is waiting for them to release ep 315. Until this happens it will be <b>stalled</b> for eternity.<br>
+===finished/completed===
+A release will get considered complete/finished by AniDB if at least a file for the last ep gets added.
+AniDB compares the <b>highest</b> file with the total ep count set for the anime. If those match it's <b>finished</b>. If a group even released a file for every episode of this anime it's <b>complete</b>
+<i>Lets make an example to show what this means:</i><br>
+:[Tennis no Ouji-sama http://anidb.info/a56]
+:SHS finished this series, but as the last ep (178) is a doubleepisode (with 177) it won't get set <b>finished</b>, but <b>stalled</b>
 ==Problems==
-*eternally stalled rels like the Meitantei Conan case even though it should be <b>ongoing</b>
+The AniDB status system obviously has various problems.
-:Problem: group released an ep way ahead of the eps they really sub which causes AniDB to wait for a "higher" ep
+*<b>No relations between the groups that would influence the status.</b><br><i>(example: HnG)</i><br>While there are parent child connections between groups, they are nothing more than links. There is no dataexchange between those groups. Meaning If a series is done by a Team which splits up in the middle of the release and gets finished by 1 of the 2 groups it will only get set <b>finished</b> instead of <b>completed</b><br>See also: [http://www.anidb.net/tracker/view.php?id=240  AniDB Bugtracker - stronger group relations/virtual groups]
-*eternally stalled rels like PoT even though it should <b>complete</b>
-:Problem: The last ep is a double episode. See: Tracker Shadow files
+*<b>eternally stalled rels caused by groups which release eps way ahead of them</b><br>(example: Conan)<br>A group releases an ep way ahead of the eps they really sub which causes AniDB to wait for a "higher" ep
-<add some more>
+*<b>eternally stalled rels caused by a double ep at the end of the series</b><br><i>(example: PoT)</i><br>See also: [http://www.anidb.net/tracker/view.php?id=113  AniDB Bugtracker - Shadow Files]
+*<b>finished set rels caused by doubleeps in the middle of the series</b><br><br>See also: [http://www.anidb.net/tracker/view.php?id=113  AniDB Bugtracker - Shadow Files]
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