Talk:Achievements Dev

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Welcome to the talk page that helps the development and enhancement of AniDB's achievements feature by gathering, organizing and discussing community suggestions. I (Hinoe (talk)) am the de facto overall in-charge in regards to this page and generally someone who pokes the relevant people about the feature. By all means, we'd like you to feel free to add your input and help our achievements improve, but please observe the following few guidelines:

• Sign your comments. This is very important so I'll stress it: sign your every comment. To sign, press the button that looks like a signature above the edit box, or simply type --~~~~. Please remember to do so at your every addition, and edit again to add a signature if you forget to do so. It's very hard to track who's saying what if people don't sign, creating confusion. Manual "signatures" may be added, or usernames appended, as required.
• Observe and follow the existing formatting. Consistency is important and helps information to stay findable.
• Don't add several suggestions on a single line. Multi-suggestion lines require posts to be edited to separate everything, because it's impossible to discuss anything unless the subject is clear.
• Be careful to not duplicate suggestions. Search the page before posting. Duplicates may be moved around, copyedited for integration, or replaced by "agreed"-style notes. Just adding that you agree with an existing suggestion is perfectly fine, though. However, clear duplicates of suggestions that are specifically on the denied suggestions area will be nuked on sight.
• Check if it's not somehow implemented on the live achievements page. More of a corollary of the previous guideline than a guideline of its own, really. Implemented suggestions are normally removed, and so are new "suggestions" to "implement" them; after all, the page is about development, not about keeping discussion history of stuff already implemented.
• Sign your comments. I'm repeating this one because it's way too important. It's probably the most important point. Typing --~~~~ or clicking the signature button isn't exactly hard and saves people a lot of trouble.

This section has most recently been updated at the time of my signature. --Hinoe (talk) 05:31, 31 July 2014 (CEST)

Open ideas, concerns, problems, and comments in general

• Der Idiot doesn't really want anime-specific images for the general, but it's not like we have many better choices. --Hinoe (talk)

• For the granted creqs achievement, add a second special constraint: also require a ratio between granted and denied (alongside the existing one, the difference between them), instead of just the difference. Example ratios for levels 1-8: 1, 3, 5, 8, 12, 20, 30, 50. How that would work: a person with 10000 granted creqs and 200 denied ones (ratio 50) would be on level 8; with one more granted and one more denied creq, they would be set back to level 7, due to the ratio dropping to circa 49.756. Currently, they'd need a ton of more denied creqs to fall back to level 7. --Hinoe (talk)
  • I like the idea of a creq badge with ratio. Ratio is a more honest representation imo. --msr
  • Fixed a glaring math issue which escaped me for all this time, duh. Also just as a reminder: I'm saying I think both ratio and difference should act as constraints, not just ratio. --Hinoe (talk) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)

• For adding favorites to userpage, add special constraint: minimum of 3 areas with at least 10 favorites each, plus minimum of 50 overall favorites. --Hinoe (talk)
  • The special constraint for adding favorites to the userpage seem good to me. Not everyone should get the badge for adding some random entries. --msr

• Number of anime watched before the birthdate of the user and number of anime watched from the childhood of the user (4-16 years since birthdate) --unknown author(s)
  • I frankly think those are rather bad ideas, as these achievements are inherently biased (yearly production varies; a 30 year old user and a 16 year old one will have wildly different amounts to watch...). In addition, privacy-concerned users will have one less badge to show off, as many avoid putting their birth date. You won't find mine on AniDB. --Hinoe (talk)

• Adding lexicon articles and converted credits --unknown author(s)
  • Though Der Idiot is trying to work on some new better version of categories/tags/lexicon; may thus be redundant at some point in time? --Shitenshi
    • In that case, we might put this idea on hold until the idea of how a new system would be takes shape. --Hinoe (talk)
    • Ok, I was thinking about this, and I really think the way Lexicon works now is mostly ok. While yes, the cat/tag/ctag/crtag system needs to change, I think Lexicon itself is ok. Lexicon entries are quite well-moderated (requiring add creqs and stuff), they need the user to actually work (while not requiring them to know japanese or any such difficulties related to adding creators, adding anime, etc; just some common sense and a brain should generally suffice), and, most importantly, they help create higher quality tags by promoting integration, etc, not to mention the pic. --Hinoe (talk)

• Creating a popular club (eg 50+ members) --unknown author
  • Sounds good to me. Maybe increase the minumum member amount? Maybe also having a minimum post requirement? --Hinoe (talk)
  • Take the Haruhi image from the "joined a club" achievement to here? That one would need another image, not sure what. I first thought of something Higurashi-related, possibly from a punishment game, but I don't think it works really well, so I'm trying to think of something else. --Hinoe (talk)
  • This idea doesn't seem quit right, it could lead to every anidb member trying to create a club in order to get it, leading to a massive number of clubs that are the same and scattered around with a low number of members. It has the felling of "I want the biggest number of follower" facebook like, sorry for the analogy. --microdark
    • Fair point. --Hinoe (talk) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)

• we should have a lolicon badge (amount of pedo anime watched) --Indy13 on IRC.
  • I suggest that duck from Moetan for the lolicon badge. Pedobear is just too overused. --Indy13
  • If there is a loli badge, I want a shota badge to match :P . --Shitenshi

• How about adding an Anime Achievement for "Award Anime" watched? (The anime which have received Awards, as listed on AniDB)? --Shitenshi
  • I really like this one too. --Hinoe (talk)
  • On second thought, maybe I don't like it as much. Community awards are often given to mediocre and overrated shows. It doesn't make sense to give awards to Top 10 shows. What remains are things like the Mainichi Awards, which isn't that relevant for western viewers. --Hinoe (talk)
    • I'm not that familiar with the awards myself, but why would the Mainichi awards not be relevant? Not all anime categories/creator categories are relevant for everyone either; it's just a way to grouop anime? --Shitenshi
      • The idea is that the Mainichi awards and similar are fairly obscure on this side of the Europe-Asia division (or, alternatively, this side of the Pacific -- whichever works best for you). Of course, I have nothing against adding them; I just wonder about their actual usefulness. --Hinoe (talk)
    • This would only be good if we'd have official awards present (like Mainichi, but I don't even know if that one is up to date), for ARC awards I'd have to say no. --Nwa
      • I've added the missing Mainichi Awards a few days ago --Worf
        • This would make more sense if more awards were added. Spirited Away has won tons of awards, including the Oscar for Best Animated Feature. Among the other Western prizes, only Howl won the New York Film Critics Circle Award. But for other Japanese/Asian awards that could be considered, we have [1], [2], [3], [4]. And finally, Tales from Earthsea won the Bunshun Kiichigo Award, which is like the Japanese Razzies. --Iroha 17:45, 3 March 2013 (CET)
          • "the Bunshun Kiichigo Award, which is like the Japanese Razzies" -- I think we can do without achievements for shit movies, unless we choose to go wild and make a whole set of joke achievements. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• "Category" based badges (where the max level is a certain % seen of all animes with that category). --Arcturon&msr on IRC
  • We already have this for porn, which at the end of the day is a category, so why the hell not. --Hinoe (talk)
  • I could do category-based badges, but, like Shitenshi, have some concerns over privacy. (Anal badge at level 8, horray!) --ommina
  • I believe it doesn't need to be that divided, audience categories should be simple. --microdark
• I have been thinking about achievements for fetishes. Cat girls, sexy foxes, angels, boing boing (2 achievements next to eachother...) there's plenty to love.--Ikus 13:15, 28 November 2013 (CET)
  • Dupe, or kind of dupe, of the category-based badges. Moving. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• Tard Badge: A user that gets tarded / subuserd should get all his badges revoked and this one in it's place. --msr
  • I don't think it's a good idea. Perhaps revoking all badges (or rather hiding them) works, but giving them a badge for being stupid is akin to giving a dumb pilot a medal for shooting many friendly planes. Yeah, doesn't sound so great. --Hinoe (talk)
    • Perhaps giving them an unhideable mention (see question about hiding badges) somewhere using the same system, but one that doesn't look like the badges. You know, a facepalm image in a motivator macro or something similar. --Hinoe (talk)
    • Tards should definitely not get a badge. Removing them seems like a good additional punishment, though. --Shitenshi

• Consecutive days watching anime. Resets to zero if you don't watch for a day. Might be complicated to implement. --Hoerie
  • Might be impossible to implement, and most likely cheating-prone. --Hinoe (talk)
  • How about adding a maximum? For example, level 8 would be watching at least one episode (also define episode, do specials/T/C count?) per day for 3 months. Sure cheating is possible, but people adding every possible anime to their mylist are cheating just the same... --Shitenshi
  • Doesn't fell quit right, people can still watch anime but only add the episode to their list after some time, instead off adding a single episode at a time, they mass add at the end of the series. --microdark

• I'm not happy with the user rank levels. First of all, why is it called "user rank" when the average user without any secondary level won't get one? Right now it should be called "staff rank" or something. My suggestions for levels 1-8 are the following: user, user + modreport checker/language verifier, adv. user, * maintainer , * creq handler, mod, senior mod, admin. --BartS
  • Makes sense. Previously, non-sub users got level 1 or perhaps 2 (maybe sub users got 1, can't remember). I'm not sure if we should rename it staff rank or change the levels. It depends on what was first intended. --Hinoe (talk)

• I also think the numbers for eps in mylist , files in mylist , watched eps and size of mylist are too low compared to anime in mylist. I mean, 5000 anime are like 100000 eps (depending on the movie/ova portion). Anyway, the Mylist Achievments[5] need some adjustment IMO. --BartS
  • I agree that the anime numbers are high in comparison with the rest. I just checked the stats and made averages: 222 MB per file and 18.0 eps per anime. I'd say we should go with 15 or so eps per anime (I think AniDB's stats for episodes count S/C/T/P/O episodes, hence why 15 instead of 18), 1 file per ep (you have redundant files? good for you...) and 250 MB per file in the calculation of what's a good badge number. Also, using roriconfan's fake stats as a good time wasted approximation, I calculated that 730 days is roughly equivalent to a bit over 40 thousand episodes. That averages to 26.3 minutes per episode, which sounds decent if we consider that movies are normally longer. 25 minutes sounds like a good approximation. What I make of this is detailed right below. Feedback on the numbers? --Hinoe (talk)
    • Eps in mylist, watched eps, files in mylist: keep as is. Size of mylist: Something between 200 and 250 MB per episode; exact number yet to be decided. Time wasted: 25 mins per episode (just make 25 * number of episodes in the level). Anime in mylist: Something between 15 and 20 eps per anime, likely 15-18; exact number yet to be decided. --Hinoe (talk)
      • (context: saying the above numbers are bad) if i'm going to adjust the values i might as well actually use the real numbers --Worf on IRC
  • I agree that some numbers need tweaking, most of all the Time Watched/Wasted, since it's very out-of-whack with the others. While random suggestions are popping up; could we figure out a badge for real collectors (aka those who want more than just the episodes, but look for all available specials, trailers, ... as well)? Then again, such a badge would more likely be a percentage of eps in mylist over the total number of eps in the anime in mylist; than one with levels where getting X files would bring you to level Y... --Shitenshi

• How about Collection Badges for shows heavily based in & around other countries? For example, Canada could have Akage no Anne, Kaze no Shoujo Emily, Skating Ring Kaleidoscope and Wakakusa no Charlotte, Italy could have Gunslinger Girl, Hetalia, Ristorante Paradiso and Thermae Romae, France could have Croisee in a Foreign Labyrinth, Les Miserables: Shoujo Cosette, Rose of Versailles and The Three Musketeers, and so on. --JQF
  • I'm afraid I really fail to see the point of this one. --Hinoe (talk) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)

• How about a "Completed a Genre" badge? For example, let's say I have watched EVERY shoujo-ai anime there is in DB. Also a "Complete Transformers/Mazinger Z/Getter Robo" would be cool, like with LoGH, Macross, Gundam. --greeksot
  • Viable only for major genres, but I suppose it's a nice idea for them. --Hinoe (talk) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)

• How about an achievements based on the user's favorite characters? User would first need to have some arbitrary number of favorite characters (say 10), and would then receive a badge if over 50% of favorited characters have a specific tag or property. Examples: Christmas Cake Eater (milf), Connoisseur (loli), Mechanic (mecha), Animal Lover (animal ears), Secondary Demographics (magical girl), Queen's Worshiper (voiced by Kugimiya Rie) etc. Wouldn't be too exploitable since it would be based on a percentage, rather than an absolute number of characters in favorites. --Azaghal 23:21, 22 February 2012 (CET)
  • That's not really an achievement, that's a preference. --Hinoe (talk) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)

• Timestamps: for badges with levels, I'd like that tooltips could show when the first level was achieved (for any new badges received after achievements were implemented). Or even better if the user could see all the timestamps (unless duplicate) from the main tooltip or from the different level indicators. --Xenodor
  • I think it's pointless. I already think the tooltip date is pointless. --Hinoe (talk) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)

• Layout: currently users can put quite a lot of junk to their userpages, possibly resulting as a garbled outlook. Since the section for achievements takes quite a lot of space on the userpage as well, I'd consider the possibility of moving achievements under Stats-tab by user's will (like "Customize userpage -> Move achievements under Stats"). --Xenodor
  • I second that, but to put it under stats tab may create some issues with the size and pictures used for the badges, unless you don't want the pictures. Perhaps you could make it possible to shuffle the clubs/achievements/favourites to the users preference. I don't know if this is possible via CSS already but for the ones who don't know much about stylesheets this may be useful. --Fendweller
  • A related separate suggestion: make the categories collapsible boxes. Instantenously saves up space and the data is still behind one (a few) clicks. Soulweaver 14:48, 23 April 2012 (CEST)
    • Collapsible boxes are a nice idea. --Hinoe (talk) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)

• An interesting addition to the Mylist achievements would be a badge for having seen anime from different production years (from My Reports section). For example, you get your first bar on the badge for having seen anime from 10 different production years, 2 for 20 etc... --nisei7
  • I don't know about interesting, but I think it'd be a pain to implement and even to decide on parameters on. I see possible technical difficulties. --Hinoe (talk) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
    • Interesting from the point that it would encourage more people to watch much older shows and see the evolution of Japanese animation through the years. As for the technical difficulties, I can definitely respect that, not only for the implementation, but for the computational load of the server as well. Some suggestions in case you bother with it: 1) The calculation should be a percentage of the total number of production years. There are currently 92 different production years. This number changes only once per year (It is very difficult for new entries from the missing years of the '20's, '40's and 50's to be added, if there are any) . So, there is no need to make the system calculate it every single time. It's a number you can set manually in the code and change it once per year. The calculation of the number of production years for every user has already been implemented in "My Reports". (But,I'm certain these are things you have already thought of. Maybe there are some more complicated issues. After all, I have done very little programming in my life to be of any more help). 2) The percentages should be kept the same e.x. I have seen from 76 different years so I would be a Level 7. 3) I don't think a special constraint would be a good idea (e.x. having seen at least 5 anime from that year) as it would be unfair (there is only one entry for some years) --nisei7

• It would be nice if those that actually contribute to the AniDB by adding new content or fixing present content got a few more Achievements:
  • Creation of a new Anime Tag *with* description. (Since tag creation is linked to the user this should be possible to check, double-checking for a description might be problematic though. Especially, if checked now... i.e. I would have added descriptions for all those too lazy to do so. Not sure how to resolve this.)
  • Adding of anime tags to anime. (I find that there are many anime that could be tagged, but no one seems to bother doing so, so an achievement based incentive might be nice. Alas this could be abused. Maybe look up added tags that got at least 2-3 votes, thus had someone agree to them. Obviously, "agreed on" does not make "wrong" tags any more relevant, but...)
  • For assigning Category entries to anime. (Quite a few anime could use more category entries, an achievement would be another incentive. I am not sure, if anyone can add category entries and needs no OK by an admin, if so, this might get ugly. Otherwise OK'ed category entries could be a relevant statistic.)
  • For adding an anime description. (Maybe restrict it to actually writing one. Not sure how much bother it is to parse "- written by XYZ" is.)
  • There are probably many more "contribution achievements", just mentioned those I normally look into. --foo2
    • The tag/category suggestions are bad for now. We're working on the new tag system and it would be pointless. Furthermore, anything that passes through adding without mod control is bound to be abused and to create more issues. As for adding anime descriptions, considering I've written many descriptions for lots of stuff (anime, tags, chars, and so on) and never added "written by Hinoe" to my description, I'd say it's nearly impossible. That's more akin to something a mod might manually award to users who do that often. In addition, I think "fixing content" is covered by the creq award to some extent, and it's really hard to make a system figure out what's a minor description fix and what's a major overhaul or a complete rewrite. --Hinoe (talk) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)

• Obscurity Award - Obscure anime defined as having a user count from 10 to 500 and an ended date at least a one year prior to the present. Maximum achievement awarded for watching half of all obscure anime. Steps by standard percentages. The numbers are somewhat arbitrary and up for discussion. Anime with very few users are often almost impossible to find and counting them would be pointless. The moving wall of one year is to exclude shows that are simply new, not obscure. Reuther
  • I like it. Available English language subs for the entire anime are a must, and solve the issue of "very" few users (also fixing the reason for 50% instead of 100% imo). As you said, the numbers are arbitrary and up for discussion, but I like one year from the end date. --Hinoe (talk) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)

• Give a achievement for peoples age. Next one for me could be midlife-crisis achievement. And I'll probably stick around until the grandpa achievement.--Ikus 13:08, 28 November 2013 (CET)
  • Yeah, like we need another death-is-getting-close reminder and an achievement for inserting your birthday in the profile... See also privacy concerns (some people don't add their birth date for privacy reasons). --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• Chroniko first came up with a suggestion for a creator achievement for a seiyuu, Wakamoto, long time ago, and just now I suggested HanaKana. I could think of ten or even twenty more seiyuu to have achievements for without much effort if I wanted to. Maybe we should get a separate Seiyuu Achievements section, separate from the Creator Achievements? It's kind of different in concept, so I think we shouldn't keep them together, and it opens up space for more Seiyuu Achievements for popular seiyuu. While I don't plan to speak for anyone in charge of actually implementing the code to pick seiyuu roles up (sup ommina), this doesn't sound like it's terribly hard to implement. --Hinoe (talk) 06:14, 10 February 2014 (CET)
  • I'd like to note that I still think we want to restrict seiyuu achievements to shows where their part is at least at secondary cast level. Otherwise it's just insane, nobody's going to ever legitly get high-level badges unless they specifically hunt for anime with the specific seiyuus we list, and that's just retarded. --Hinoe (talk) 06:14, 10 February 2014 (CET)

• Just to revisit the "achievements can't be assigned to tags" issue (in the other section) since it's been almost a year since it was last mentioned: I'm pretty sure nothing has changed on that front, especially with the new tag system rather around the corner, but can we have that as a high priority feature, achievements-wise? It doesn't need to be implemented ASAP or anything, but it's really high on my wishlist for the achievements system, so next time someone is going to implement a random feature can we have this at least considered? --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
  • Moved the suggestion, copyedited for clarity. I talked to ommina and he says it MAY happen. No promises were given but he says it's doable. --Hinoe (talk) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)

New Anime/Creator Achievements suggestions

• I would like to see a Kikuchi Hideyuki achievement. I am aware the amount of titles based on his works isn't that grand, however everything is in high budget OVA/movie format and he's a well-known author (with the western audience too). Even now, quite a few of his stuff are at least moderately popular (mainly the Vampire Hunter D movies, which are considered classics of the genre). --Gorgils

• Let's not forget a Wakamoto badge. --Chroniko on IRC
  • I figure the Wakamoto one would be a problem, but we might want it for the lulz if nothing else. He is very meme-spawning inside the anime community. It's really the kind of thing non-watchers would never, ever understand. He's also very awesome in general. --Hinoe (talk)
  • Seiyuu in general might be limited to at least secondary cast. No use for the listing of all Wakamoto walk-on parts. --Hinoe (talk)

• Building on the previous Wakamoto suggestion, HanaKana. She's a versatile seiyuu with a fuckton of roles and the most beautiful voice in the anime industry (suck it, Noto Mamiko!). --Hinoe (talk) 06:07, 10 February 2014 (CET)

• I think there should be a Kon Satoshi Creator Badge! He's got the highly reputable body of work for it. --JQF
  • I second this. --Megumi komeshi 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
  • The problem with him is that his filmography is pretty unimpressive in numerical terms, making this mostly a Paranoia Agent badge. --Iroha 15:31, 1 March 2013 (CET)
    • I understand and agree with the concern, but I should think he's high profile enough to warrant it anyway. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
  • He most definitely deserves an achievement. He made a huge impact, despite his relatively small list of works. --Mortsyn 04:27, 27 March 2014 (CET)

• I recommend Shirow Masamune as well. --Fendweller
  • I second this. --Megumi komeshi 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
    • Same. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
      • Fourthed. A good choice for the badge would be Briaeros from Appleseed. Iroha (talk) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)

• On top of the two above, I add Mamoru Hosoda to the list, though he's only an up and coming director. --Megumi komeshi 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
  • Seconded. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
  • Same here, he's quickly reached stardom fame the last few years. --Mortsyn 04:33, 27 March 2014 (CEST)
    • Very unimpressive. Of the eight films that are out, four are already included other badges (2×Digimon, 1×One Piece, 1×GeGeGe) and another is a Louis Vuitton commercial. While the other three are nice, I don't think they don't justify an achievement. Iroha (talk) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)

• Also perhaps a separate badge for everything Hayao Miyazaki has ever worked on, including his early stuff? --Megumi komeshi 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
  • The overlap with Ghibli is too big. This might be one to keep in mind for after a system rewrite allows more advanced stuff, but right now there is too little a point, I think. Watching his movies is essentially two achievements for the price of one. :) Though, of course, with how prolific he is, that isn't necessarily a big problem. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
    • The more advanced system isn't happening so this goes back to being an idea. I'm not sure I like it, but whatever. Just saying it to "deshoot up" (??) the idea I shot down earlier. --Hinoe (talk) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)

• Perhaps also Production I.G. and Madhouse, in addition to the existing Studio 4C. --Megumi komeshi 01:43, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
  • While Ghibli, KyoAni and 4C all can be said to have a very clear style, I doubt the same can be said of studios such as I.G and Madhouse. With their size, I'm not sure it's such a good idea. If we add them just because, we're going to need to add all major studios, and frankly the mylist badges already kinda covers that stuff. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
• I think that a Production I.G. achievement should exist. Many good series from them --Siborg (talk) 04:45, 8 November 2013 (CET)
  • Dupe, moving. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• Would a noitaminA Badge be out of place? --JQF
  • I'm in support of a Noitamina badge. Soulweaver 14:48, 23 April 2012 (CEST)
  • I don't know what to file this under, tbh. I'm leaving it under anime/creator for now. --Hinoe (talk) 04:16, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
    • There is currently no way to award watching anime that have a certain tag. --Worf 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET)
      • There might be one in the future, see the other section. --Hinoe (talk) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)

• Not particularly interested in noitaminA, but I'd like a Young Animator Training Project badge. Because it's really cool stuff. --Hinoe (talk) 03:48, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
  • Context: my suggestion was originally said in response to the noitaminA suggestion above. Worf's response below is a copy of the one he gave there, just for good measure. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
  • There is currently no way to award watching anime that have a certain tag. --Worf 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET).
    • There might be one in the future, see the other section. --Hinoe (talk) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)

• World Masterpiece Theater series anime watched --unknown author
  • I like this one a lot. They're not linked closely like other creator/show badges, but it makes sense because the brand name has its own touch and is generally based off classic literature. Culture never hurts. --Hinoe (talk)
  • I agree! Not to mention (most of them) are really good! --JQF
    • There is currently no way to award watching anime that have a certain tag. --Worf 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET)
      • There might be one in the future, see the other section. --Hinoe (talk) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)

• How about the Natsume Yuujinchou series? --JQF
  • I just separated this from the noitaminA badge suggestion above. Kind of borderline. Might be worth looking into, especially if it grows. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
• Natsume Yujinchou --nisei7
  • Dupe. Moving. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• I'm... not quite sure how this hasn't been suggested before, but I'd like to see an achievement for SHAFT shows under Shinbou's style. I took the liberty of checking the entire list of shows that credit Shinbou as either director or chief director, and the list of shows with Animation Work credits for SHAFT, and of crossing them over to see the results. It appears to me that the shows they create are only memorable in any manner (good or bad, depending on your taste) when SHAFT is doing what Shinbou wants, and when Shinbou can make SHAFT do what he wants. The rest is like Evangelion without Anno Hideaki; it might be good, but it's radically different. As such, I'd like a badge for shows that fulfill both: 1) Animation Work credits for SHAFT; and 2) either Direction or Chief Direction credits for Shinbou. Opinions on this (rather unusual, I know) suggestion? --Hinoe (talk) 04:08, 24 February 2013 (CET)
  • Not doable at the moment. Well, it would be doable but someone would have to create that list manually. And keep it updated. --Worf 00:33, 28 February 2013 (CET)
    • Moved the rest of this discussion to a more fitting section, namely that of the denied ideas since that's what a talk on IRC made clear. --Hinoe (talk) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
    • TOTALLY UNRELATED to the creator math idea but still on Shinbou and SHAFT: is it currently possible to limit an achievement by date? If not, I'll just file it as a feature request. --Hinoe (talk) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
    • See my comments below on Gainax. Either go with just a SHAFT or just a Shinbou badge. There's no point in excluding some old stuff because you don't want to watch What's Michael or Metal Fighter Miku for your achievement. Also keep in mind that SHAFT has done some good shows without Shinbou (and vice versa) and that they have also put out garbage together. If you're a completionist, you have to suffer anyway. Iroha (talk) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)

• For a moment I thought that we had a creator achievement for Fujishima Kousuke already, but turns out that we don't. --Iroha 15:31, 1 March 2013 (CET)
  • Agreed, important badge. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
• A You're Under Arrest Achievement, if it's possible. --Ryuurei
  • I second that... --nisei7
    • Would be encompassed by a Fujishima Kousuke achievement. Of course, splitting it into YUA! and Oh! My Goddess achievements would also be possible. Iroha 20:28, 11 May 2013 (CEST)
      • It would be for the best to splitting them into You're Under Arrest! and Oh! My Goddess Achievements. Ryuurei 04:49, 29 May 2013
        • I rather think not. They're small to warrant separate achievements. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
  • Moving... another dupe... sigh. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• Although I detest his work, Akamatsu Ken might also be prolific enough to warrant a badge. --Iroha 15:31, 1 March 2013 (CET)
  • He is. I can vouch that Love Hina and Negima are much better manga than their abominable anime adaptations would have you think, but still. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• Also not mentioned yet: NisiOisiN --Iroha 15:47, 1 March 2013 (CET)
  • Can't go without this one. He's a huge name in anime nowadays. Too bad we'd have Medaka Box in that achievement, too... --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
  • Agreed. There's no denying that he's become a huge and well-known name the last few years. --Mortsyn 04:37, 27 March 2014 (CET)

• Togashi Yoshihiro (or badge for Yu Yu Hakusho) --Iroha 15:47, 1 March 2013 (CET)
  • There's already one for HxH, so I see why you'd suggest Yuu Yuu Hakusho, but I can't agree with leaving Level E out, not with how excellent it is. No, it has to go on him as a creator. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
  • The HXH badge should definitely be changed into a Togashi Yoshihiro badge, considering he made two high-profile battle shounens, along with Level E. --Mortsyn 04:31, 27 March 2014 (CET)

• Ootomo Katsuhiro --Iroha 15:47, 1 March 2013 (CET)
  • Most of his credits aren't badge material, so in the end we'd have a pretty unimpressive badge in numerical terms. This we can deal with, see Satoshi Kon badge discussion. Another, maybe bigger problem is that many of his badge credits have episode restrictions (i.e. directed one ep out of several), and I'm inclined to think the system can't deal with that too well. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• Some more suggestions: Space Adventure Cobra --nisei7
  • Borderline, might qualify (see previous stuff about Natsume). --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• Patlabor --nisei7
  • A classic. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
    • Large and very varied franchise (86 episodes), I'd also like to see a badge for it. Natural choice for the pic would be Alphonse. Alternatively Noa or Chief Goto. Iroha (talk) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)

• Dirty Pair --nisei7
  • Borderline as well, I should think. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• Nodame Cantabile --nisei7
  • Borderline, probably not sufficiently relevant. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• Guyver --nisei7
  • Too small to count. We have to draw the line somewhere. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• the works by Masakazu Katsura --nisei7
  • Not relevant enough, I think. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• and maybe some way to connect all these through Scramble Wars. --nisei7
  • Seriously? Those are all character relations, which are extremely weak. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• I would like to see a Masaaki Yuasa (as 監督 director) creator achievement. --Ryuurei
  • Pretty sure I'd seen this suggestion before. Anyway, yes, Yuasa Masaaki is important.
    • Distinctive style and as opposed to most other suggestions in that vein, he actually has some considerable output. Iroha (talk) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)

• And a Gainax studio (as 製作 animation production) one. --Ryuurei
  • This is a case similar to the SHAFT one. There were a select few brains making Gainax good. Today they're with Khara or Trigger and Gainax is a ghost of itself. I'd sooner prefer an achievement on the creators that made Gainax good, or a Gainax-with-person-so-and-so achievement when (if) it becomes possible. Be it SHAFT alone or Gainax alone, I see no reason. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
    • The mixed creator thing isn't happening but I'm still against this idea. --Hinoe (talk) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
      • The few shit shows like Medaka Box don't outweigh the wealth of great stuff Gainax has done in the past. KyoAni also has a bunch of terrible shows (almost everything recent), but still has a badge. If you want the highest level of an achievement, it should cost you some blood, sweat and tears. Iroha (talk) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)

• Osamu Dezaki (all Major Staff page) Achievement will be great too! --Ryuurei
  • I agree. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• I'd like to see an achievement for the Toaru/Raildex series! -- CDB-Man (talk) 09:04, 8 October 2013 (CEST)
  • Borderline in terms of size, but it's highly popular, so it qualifies. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
    • Much larger than one of your suggestions below. 100 eps if treated together. Iroha (talk) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)

• Fairy Tail. It has plenty of episodes and should continue. It's a fun show plenty of action and magic. It doesn't have real fillers or just short side stories between arc, it progress good. I love the comedy and subtle ecchi fanservice. When the show continues it would be worth to add for me. I see a Fairy Tail log on a burning/flaming background.--Ikus 12:57, 28 November 2013 (CET)
  • Big enough to warrant one, I'd say. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• Ikki Tousen achievement. It's a classic series with a good fan base and probably has the most figures ever produced. Ikki tousen is still the best show in what it does. For the ecchi fan, this one is really important, I think.--Ikus 12:57, 28 November 2013 (CET)
  • Probably borderline, see cases above. When the tag-based achievement becomes real, having a Romance of the Three Kingdoms tag achievement makes a tad more sense, if you ask me. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• About Naruto, I can understand why, but at the same time I think anyone who has been watching Naruto since 2002 (like me) deserves a statue, or at least an achievement. Even if you don't want to give one, make it part of a bigger achievement. I was thinking about a "fill me up," "I survived boredom," I'm talking about negative achievements. In this case certain anime with terrible fillers ( like DBZ snake way) those stack up for an achievement. Giving an achievement for watching fillers, give something for suffering.--Ikus 13:15, 28 November 2013 (CET)
  • If you've been watching Naruto since 2002 and think you deserve a status for that, I think you deserve to be shot, but maybe that's just me. Anyway, I'm not sure there's a great point in that kind of "achievement", but I guess to each their own. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
    • Although this has already been shot down in the past, Naruto (or also Bleach) being a terrible show is not much of an argument when we have achievements for Beyblade and Yu-Gi-Oh! But if there's no hope for it anyway, just move this down to the rest. Iroha (talk) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)

• Shinkai Makoto. Not sure how nobody suggested him before. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
  • Only twelve episodes, while counting 5cm per Second as three. Another case where the progression seems too steep. Iroha (talk) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)

• Oshii Mamoru. Not sure how nobody suggested him before. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• Since everyone is suggesting lots of semi-irrelevant cases, I'd like to nominate another borderline one: Kaminomi. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
  • Seems too small at this point. Iroha (talk) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)

• Just for good measure, since it's covered by the Dezaki Osamu suggestion above, but Ashita no Joe. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• Ace o Nerae. It falls short of being fully covered by the Dezaki Osamu suggestion due to Shin Ace o Nerae! --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

• Araki Hirohiko. The man has created one of the most prolific, famous, and meme-tastic series of all time. If not a creator achievement, then at least an anime achievement for JoJo. --Mortsyn 04:57, 27 March 2014 (CET)
  • I think a JoJo achievement sounds like a good idea, especially with its newly-gained status in the anime community as a whole. That 1 episode OVA based on something else by the same author doesn't seem too important, however, and creator achievements are for people who have a rather broader work list, so I think that's not such a good option. --Hinoe (talk) 07:14, 7 April 2014 (CEST)
    • A JoJo one should be warranted by now, with the third series bringing the total episodes to around 90. Iroha (talk) 18:00, 13 February 2015 (CET)

• Imaishi Hiroyuki? He's been in charge of some of the most creative and talked-about anime as of yet. --Mortsyn 04:57, 27 March 2014 (CET)
  • It's possible. In time we might also prefer a Trigger achievement, though. It's really hard to say in this case, especially with the Gainax achievement suggestion running around, and with the Evangelion achievement existing and everything. --Hinoe (talk) 07:14, 7 April 2014 (CEST)

• Watanabe Shin'ichirou. One of the most famous anime directors of all time, who left a huge mark in the west. --Mortsyn 15:47, 27 March 2014 (CET)
  • Definitely seconded. --Hinoe (talk) 07:14, 7 April 2014 (CEST)

• Urobuchi Gen. He's one of the few writers who almost everyone in the anime (and related) community is familiar with. --Mortsyn 15:47, 27 March 2014 (CET)
  • I'm actually uncertain about this one. His most relevant major credit is covered by the Type-Moon achievement already and the rest doesn't seem to hit the bar. If we include his scriptwriting credits, which are considered minor credits, we can include Madoka, which is his other very high-profile work, but I'm not sure we want to open that can of worms for him alone. It's certainly a good consideration for the future, though. Perhaps if they announce a Saya no Uta anime? :D --Hinoe (talk) 07:14, 7 April 2014 (CEST)

Anime Classics and/or Genre Packs

Since this specific field of discussion is too big, it has been split off to its own section. Genre packs are detailed below and are not to be confused with the category badges, which would refer to an ENTIRE category, not to specific choices.

General suggestions

• Add badges for selected titles for a set of genres. The idea here would be to have a sort of "watchpack" per genre for which the episodes are counted (like the db / pokemon / etc badges). The series in these packs should be examplary for the genre and generally be considered "great watches". I'm currently not set on a list of minimal requirements for these badges (how many of anime's, how many eps,...) but I wouldn't make it too strict. One genre doesn't necesarilly hold asmuch good titles as another. --msr
  • Below is what I currently have on this. I would like to compile a list made up by me and some other people who have watched a decent amount of anime. People willing to make those genrelists with me feel free to poke me on irc. --msr
    • I like the idea of packs. It might actually help people watch more good shows and less crap. --Hinoe (talk)
  • How would that overlap with the idea of mod-set Anime Classics from the main page? Perhaps as an extension (i.e. a set of Anime Classics badges, one per genre)? --Hinoe (talk)
  • The biggest problem imo would be how to arrive at reasonable packs, specially considering how people will wage wars to classify shows in this or that genre. I'm not sure if genres are the best way to do it. Perhaps the themes are a better idea. I don't know. --Hinoe (talk)

• Staff's selection badges (each mod personally picks ~10 anime which are grouped for his personal selection badge). --Arcturon on IRC

• I don't approve of achievements based on a list generated by random users, cause that's what we all are. What exactly would this badge represent, that you've watched the selected anime from certain genre, picked by other anime fans. I don't see the point in that. I've also seen the classic anime badge, and isn't it the same thing? Classic by whose definition? Ours? I'd much rather have badges based on (mostly) factual data or based on opinions of something official (the awards given in official events in Japan). --nwa
  • While I like the general idea of genre badges, I agree with nwa's points. There will be constant complaint about this series not being considered while that one is. The ideal case would be if the achievement considers all series with max weight of a certain category.--BartS

• I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on nwa's considerations on this matter (see above). He has some decent points. --Hinoe (talk)
  • I agree with nwa's points, choosing a certain set of anime's for a genre badge will always leave out some people, and thus the complaining begins. BartS has a good point, it would be better to consider all anime entries with a max weight in a certain category. Making it a badge/achievement based on total percentage watched will be impossible in this case, but you could set a certain amount of anime watched of the genre a prerequisite for being able to get the badge. --Fendweller

• I think those Genre Pack are wrong, not about the genre, but because it's incomplete and completely subjective. Moreover, there is some mistake and spoil. For exemple, Speed Racer is not an 80's show at all, it's a 60's one (1967-1968 precisely). Akira was adapted in 1988, not in the 90's, as Dragon Ball, from 1986 to 1989 and Z from 1989 to the 90's. Galaxy 999 in Afterlife... ok people will thank you about that. Also, about the "They Were Big in Japan", Cat's Eyes was a BIG success in France, so "didn't make that big a impression elsewhere at the time" is inapropriate. --Ryuurei
  • Wrong place, moved. Anyway... Well obviously they're going to be incomplete and subjective, they're meant to be a select pick of suggestions of good shows people might otherwise skip. As for mistakes, well, I don't really think the Genre Packs idea is actually going to fly, but you should probably make notes about each show under it when you think they shouldn't be there. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)

Classic Anime suggestions

• Momotarou: Umi no Shinpei (the first full-length anime feature) and Kanashimi no Belladonna --nisei7

Tentative title lists for the Genre Packs

Those are the initial suggestions from msr unless otherwise specified.

• Adventure
  • Master Keaton
  • While I don't know the anime Master Keaton, this category kinda overlaps though. 12K is also adventure, the Tales Of ... series generally are as well. Seirei no Moribito too. --Shitenshi
  • Spice and Wolf --JQF
  • Nausicaa --JQF
  • Katanagatari --JQF
  • Kino's Journey --JQF
  • Future Boy Conan --JQF
  • R.O.D --JQF
  • Welcome to the Space Show --JQF
  • Mujin Wakusei Survive --JQF
  • Michiko to Hatchin --JQF
  • Nadia: Secret of Blue Water --JQF

• Horror
  • Hellsing
  • Horror: Mix of Horror and Gore? Can include Mnemosyne then. --Shitenshi
  • Shiki --JQF
  • When They Cry - Higurashi --JQF
  • Elfen Lied --JQF
  • Hell Girl --JQF

• Sports
  • Hajime no Ippo
  • Touch
  • Hikaru no Go
  • Major Season 1
  • Akagi
  • Initial D
  • Yawara --JQF

• Sci-Fi
  • Planetes
  • Seikai no Senki Universe
  • Ghost in the shell SAC
  • Cowboy Bebop
  • Akira
  • Last Exile
  • Bounen no Xamdou
  • Dennou Coil
  • Neon Genesis Evangelion
  • Kaiba
  • Pale Cocoon --Xenodor
  • Eve no Jikan --Xenodor

• Fantasy
  • 12K
  • Berserk
  • Hagane no Renkinjutsushi
  • Mushishi
  • Seirei no Moribito
  • Hunter x Hunter
  • I would at least also include a Tales Of ... series; maybe Utawarerumono as well. --Shitenshi

• Crime
  • Monster
  • Death Note
  • Gungrave
  • Rainbow: Nisha Rokubou no Shichinin
  • Baccano! --JQF
  • Cat's Eye --JQF
  • Durarara!! --JQF
  • Sarai-ya Goyou --JQF

• Detectives -- All suggested by JQF unless otherwise specified. Maybe merge with Crime for "Law and Order"?
  • City Hunter
  • Ghost in the Shell
  • Nijuu-Mensou no Musume
  • Sherlock Hound
  • RD Sennou Chousashitsu

• Action
  • Hunter X Hunter
  • Black Lagoon
  • City Hunter --JQF
  • Fullmetal Alchemist --JQF
  • Gurren Lagann --JQF
  • Baccano! --JQF
  • Samurai Champloo --JQF
  • Trigun --JQF

• Drama
  • Rurouni Kenshin Tsuioku Hen

• Romance
  • Nana
  • Hachimitsu to Clover
  • Bokura ga Ita
  • Paradise Kiss
  • Hoshi no Koe
  • Kimi ni Todoke --Shitenshi
  • Koi Kaze --Xenodor

• Slice of Life
  • Kamichu!
  • Spice and Wolf
  • Kino no Tabi
  • Usagi Drop --JQF
  • Aria the Animation --JQF
  • Haibane-Renmei --JQF
  • Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou --JQF
  • Hanasaku Iroha --JQF
  • Wagnaria!! --JQF
  • Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou --Xenodor

• Comedy
  • Gintama --Shehan-DA619
  • Tokyo Godfathers
  • Nodame Cantabile
  • Fullmetal Panic Fumoffu
  • GTO
  • Detroit Metal City
  • Moyashimon
  • Abenobashi Shopping Arcade
  • Ouran Koukou Host Club
  • Chobits
  • Golden Boy
  • Excel Saga --Xenodor
  • Sexy Commando Gaiden: Sugoiyo!! Masaru-san --Hughjasss (If Excel Saga is to be included here, then I'll list some other bizarre comedy - although, perhaps a "Gag" section would be better?)
  • Sakigake!! Cromartie Koukou --Hughjasss
  • Puni Puni Poemi --Hughjasss

• Shounen Ai and Shoujo Ai genres as well? That said, I don't know enough anime to provide with proper lists of anime. --Shitenshi

• Manly -- All in this genre suggested by Hoerie unless otherwise specified.
  • Hokuto no Ken
  • Kenpuu Denki Berserk
  • Mad Bull 34
  • Golgo 13
  • JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken

• Otaku-tastic -- All suggested by JQF unless otherwise specified.
  • Daikon III & IV
  • Genshiken
  • Lucky Star
  • Tetsuko no Tabi
  • Oreimo
  • Otaku no Video
  • Welcome to the N.H.K
  • Princess Jellyfish(?)

• School Daze -- All suggested by JQF unless otherwise specified.
  • Great Teacher Onizuka
  • The Girl Who Leapt Through Time
  • School Rumble
  • Toradora!
  • Azumanga Daioh
  • Kimi ni Todoke
  • Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei
  • Genshiken
  • The Tatami Galaxy
  • K-ON!

• The 80s Introductions, those shows that made it over the ocean and introduced anime to a lot of people -- All suggested by JQF unless otherwise specified.
  • Speed Racer
  • Transformers
  • Macross
  • Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs microdark
  • Dragon Ball microdark

• The 90s Rush -- All suggested by JQF unless otherwise specified.
  • Akira
  • Ranma 1/2
  • Dragon Ball Z
  • Sailor Moon --Megumi Komeshi

• Afterlife Specials -- All suggested by JQF unless otherwise specified.
  • Galaxy 999
  • Haibane-Renmei
  • Angel Beat

• They Were Big in Japan, shows that were Big in Japan but didn't make that big a impression elsewhere at the time -- All suggested by JQF unless otherwise specified.
  • Cat's Eye
  • Yawara
  • Sazae-san --Megumi Komeshi
  • Kiki's Delivery Service --Megumi Komeshi

• Fairy Tales -- All suggested by JQF unless otherwise specified.
  • The Snow Queen
  • Swan Lake
  • 1001 Nights
  • World Famous Fairy Tales
  • Cinderella
  • Grimm`s Fairy Tale Classics
  • Aladdin and the Wonderful Lamp
  • Thumbelina (1978)
  • Princess Mononoke (?)
  • Princess Tutu --Xenodor
  • Arete-hime --Megumi Komeshi
  • A Tree of Palme --Megumi Komeshi

• Historical -- All suggested by JQF unless otherwise specified.
  • Barefoot Gen
  • Grave of the Fireflies
  • Samurai Champloo
  • Millennium Actress
  • Ojii-san no Lamp
  • Hetalia
  • Thermae Romae
  • Rose of Versailles --Xenodor
  • Akage no Anne (unless exclusive to suggested WMT-badge) --Xenodor
  • Le Chevalier d'Eon --Megumi Komeshi

• War -- All suggested by JQF unless otherwise specified.
  • Barefoot Gen
  • Grave of the Fireflies
  • Howl`s Moving Castle
  • Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
  • Break Blade
  • Cat Shit One
  • Flag
  • Library War
  • Like The Clouds, Like The Wind
  • Pumpkin Scissors
  • Valkyria Chronicles
  • The Sky Crawlers
  • Voices of a Distant Star

• Iyashi-kei -- All suggested by JQF unless otherwise specified.
  • Note: this was originally an Aria Badge suggestion, but JQF reformulated it into a suggestion on the Genre Pack suggestion, so I moved it here and rewrote. The original writing can still be found in history. Just look before 2012-10-12. --Hinoe (talk) 04:24, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
  • Aria the Animation
  • Hidamari Sketch
  • Iblard Jikan
  • Kamichu!
  • Omoide Poro-poro
  • Sketchbook: Full Color`s
  • Soredemo Machi wa Mawatte Iru
  • Tamayura
  • Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou
  • Kokoro Toshokan

Denied ideas

• Bleach and Naruto badges? I'm not a fan of either series, but they are big. --Megumi komeshi
  • I think they were denied on account of being shitty. Don't quote me on it, though. --Hinoe (talk) 04:09, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
    • Denied (again) by Worf on 24 February 2013. --Hinoe (talk) 08:17, 1 February 2014 (CET)

• Watching a film in a theater. While I know people could cheat on this, of course they can cheat on everything else. I think it would be pretty cool, especially with the current Ghibli showings. Megumi komeshi 01:51, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
  • No. Please. --Hinoe (talk) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
    • Denied by Worf on 24 February 2013. --Hinoe (talk) 08:17, 1 February 2014 (CET)

• Having a certain percentage of your anime on DVD. This might actually help the industry... Megumi komeshi 01:51, 1 October 2012 (CEST)
  • No. Please. --Hinoe (talk) 04:08, 13 October 2012 (CEST)
    • Denied by Worf on 24 February 2013. --Hinoe (talk) 08:17, 1 February 2014 (CET)

• "Achievement" badge for having numerous stalled and/or dropped entries. --Xenodor
  • Why the hell would you want that? --Hinoe (talk)
    • Primarily just for reminding/encouraging users to watch what they had initially started, e.g. if user has reached over 50 stalled anime on their mylist. Badge would disappear if the value decreases below the threshold. Alternatively thought about an achievement depending on the watched-% (watched episodes / mylist episodes), but this could be rather easy to get for anyone who's only adding already seen anime to their lists. --Xenodor
      • While I somewhat see where this is coming from, I have strong doubts about the actual usefulness or value of such a non-achievement. If anything, it looks to me more like a "coward medal", so to speak, and I fail to see why we would want that. The badges are supposed to be something you'd show off to your not-so-hardcore fellows (lol, am I really saying this?), not a system of reminders telling you that you missed an episode of so-and-so franchise or that you're late in x or y series. They're supposed to be a general description of, well, achievements (oh, Captain Obvious, you don't say?! I'd never have guessed! :P); for reports on their status in series and franchises and such, AniDB has tons of much more useful features. Just my personal opinion, though. --Hinoe (talk)
        • Denied by Worf on 24 February 2013. --Hinoe (talk) 08:17, 1 February 2014 (CET)

• Around the achievements you have a coloured circle which looks fine in the beginning but after I reached lvl9 it became a ugly green circle or any other fill colour. I was thinking about 2 different things for completing achievements. 1) For obtainable achievements like watching all episodes from anime x you can have a "puzzle" system, so to see the full achievement you need to watch everything. (or cheat) 2) For almost impossible achievements (like watch all anime...) the circle would be fine, but when reaching maximum level using something else than a green circle, little stars or something like that. I just find the full circle ugle. --Ikus 13:08, 28 November 2013 (CET)
  • Okay, first things first: there isn't a set of impossible achievements and a set of possible ones; that's not how it works. Anime and creator achievements have 9 levels, mylist and statistical ones have 8, and one-time, special and mod ones have only one -- or no levels, alternatively. I don't know the internals, maybe it's possible to do more, but this is what we operate with currently. The last level of 9-level ones and the single-level ones have a "one-color circle", which is neither precisely one-color nor precisely a circle, but let's go with that for simplicity; the rest has a color progression. I don't particularly find the one-color circle ugly, personally, but we can think of alternatives. Now, something like little stars or whatever for is fine, I guess, but it has to be at the very least easily replicable for all achievements of the same kind (i.e. all creator achievements have the same set of little stars or whatever), because nobody is going to bother picking stuff to do what the circle does today for each and every current or new achievement. In contrast to the limited but existing feasibility of that, however, a puzzle system is much less likely to happen, not only because of the low replicability across different achievements but also because I'm pretty certain the system would require extensive rewrites, and that isn't going to happen any soon. We have more pressing limitations that aren't being addressed at current, either (search this page for Shinbou for more information). --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
    • Denied by the person in charge of the backend, way too much work and not enough result. --Hinoe (talk) 08:17, 1 February 2014 (CET)

• Adding a little icon/mark on achievements that are scanned by a client. Some might just manually add stuff to get achievements. This way it can be more legit and show the person watched it.--Ikus 13:08, 28 November 2013 (CET)
  • I doubt it's even implementable, and even if it is, many people simply use Chii, and others added files back in the stone age of AniDB and don't have them anymore, and so on. I see way too many drawbacks. --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
    • Not to mention people might watch on TV, etc. Anyway, the person in charge of the backend says it's impossible to do as that's not kept track of and it's not gonna start now. --Hinoe (talk) 08:17, 1 February 2014 (CET)

• This references a talk in another section, CTRL+F for Shinbou or SHAFT for more info. Moved here because it's a dead feature request. --Hinoe (talk) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
  • TL;DR a list that took two creators into account or did any sort of creator math would have to be manually created. ommina says it's not going to happen as an automatic feature without much work. Manually updating such a list is highly problematic because it requires a pretty high access level (file-based, no admin frontend to the system, one not happening this century despite my arguments in support of one) so it's not gonna happen either. Just below is an older talk to between worf and myself which is stored for reference purposes only since it's pretty useless by now. --Hinoe (talk) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)
    • You mean like this? :) --Hinoe (talk) 05:30, 28 February 2013 (CET) (Note: previously linked to a page to be nuked; page contains a few manually crafted (and now useless) lists of anime.)
      • Yeah, except your list isn't very useful. And keeping it up2date and feeding it to the achievement system automatically is also not going to work. --Worf 22:56, 28 February 2013 (CET)
        • Yeah, uhh, do you want it done manually or automatically? If you say it needs to be done manually and then complain it won't work automatically, you're not making much sense. If the problem is I'm using names rather than IDs, however, that was simply how I had made the list back when I needed it; converting it to IDs is a bit on the annoying monkey work side, but it needs to be done just once and it's not a lot of entries anyway. I still would rather simply use some manner of query to make it all automatic (are you sure we can't get that to be automatic?), but hey, can't have a party every day. (If all else fails, just make a badge for either, or maybe one for each.) --Hinoe (talk) 09:02, 1 March 2013 (CET)
          • The problem is that the script responsible for the badges can't handle such complex cases. It can handle either "a list of AID", "all related anime to a given AID" or "all anime with a certain creditID for a given creatorID". So someone would have to provide a list of AIDs that would need to be hardcoded into the config. This method would mean that manual updating of the config is required - every time a new anime (or credit) gets added that would fall into this group. This is simply not practical (you remember the people complaining that some creator badges had a wrong count because some new anime wasn't included? That's why.) Of course this could be made automatic, like it was done for Creators. But you should be well aware of the problems that come with trying to kick other people into doing some work. --Worf 00:16, 3 March 2013 (CET)
            • Yeah, there's a problem with that kicking people into work thing. I'm afraid I can't really help there. Can we have that sort of feature into a wishlist, if nothing else? --Hinoe (talk) 06:25, 27 January 2014 (CET)
              • Just because people only check the last reply, I'll say again: feature not going to happen, use just one of the creators for now, or whatever really. --Hinoe (talk) 06:42, 10 February 2014 (CET)

• Adding episodes/files/characters/song/collections/groups --unknown author
  • Not gonna happen. Statwhoring by adding useless/crappy/incomplete entries is too likely. --Worf 17:41, 16 January 2012 (CET)
    • Copied from the old article just now because I decided that since we're going to have a section listing denied ideas we might as well keep it as complete as possible. --Hinoe (talk) 20:13, 6 March 2014 (CET)